@TiberiusBravo87 The Japanese were dedicated to winning the war. Then when it became obvious that they had no possibility to win whatsoever the Emperor wanted to engage in loose talks about ending the war, but the US was too busy kicking their ass to be bothered with meeting. If the advancing army won't talk then what can you do but to prepare for the worst? It's very typically American to be the dominant party while being genuinely puzzled that the opponent is afraid and desperate as they are slaughtered. Perhaps this paradigm was created by a few centuries of genocidng the inferior natives, but no need to digress too far there. In regards to ending the war, it's not unusual for the winning side to continue pushing ahead winning for a while before accepting terms, but what is unusual is the level of bullshit and lack of grace that Americans exhibit even in victory. The truth is that there was this gigantic secret Manhattan Project to make the atomic bomb, and fuck all if it wasn't going to be dropped on someone after all of that effort. When I buy a new game I also like to play it. Typical American people did not decide to drop the secret bomb, that was a top military decision, which was then repackaged for the sale by appealing to American's very unique strongest vulnerable person status. It was just a toy and not even particularly worse than just dropping fire bombs onto wooden houses and watching entire cities burn to the ground. The Bomb had little to do with winning the war, the Japanese people were already lost and defenseless merely waiting to be burned to death. It was simply a post-war strategy for ensuring that everyone would always remember who the boss is.

In regards to Detroit going to shit and being worse off than having a low yield atomic bomb dropped on it, well those early bombs were more psychological and precursory than anything else. The difference is that in Japan something bad happened to the people and then they desired to rebuild. In the case of Detroit it was a planned destruction by the very people who were in charge there. To be able to so thoroughly dismantle a place the people need to believe that what they were doing is incorrect. First it was simply global market ideology, then climate change (first as global cooling, then as global warming). The decision had been made long ago to have the world's production destroyed (in WW2), have America become the strongest, then to have America build the world government structures, then for America to be dismantled so that it could fit into this new world governance structure as just another country.

@TiberiusBravo87 Dude, Japan was hosed. They had to deforest huge areas to get enough tree sap to launch a one-way kamikaze plane attack. They were completely done and unable to defend their cities from attack. The Emperor was requesting a meeting to discuss terms and it was being outright ignored. The US military wanted to use the bomb. That was the best way to scare the shit out of the Russians in the strategy to stop them from advancing Westward, without actually using it on them.

A lot of your faggot conservative world view and that of your family is based around the Good War and all of it's goodness. That is the America that they want to return to with all of the evil and all of the good. Unfortunately while there was a lot of good at that time, the conservatives are too unimaginative to do anything other than looking backwards, and too cowardly to look into the darkness. Yeah yeah, my grandfather also fought in that war, then got brain cancer likely from some shit that he was exposed to. None of that means anything.

If the US didn't actually need to Bomb the Japs then it's not the Light on the Hill. Then the dollar and all of it's convoluted arrangements aren't holy either. The entire conservative world view is based upon the holy right of plunder from the Good War. All of that fucking shit was just to setup the conditions for the situation that we're heading into now. Liberals did the big mindfuck thinking, conservatives did the dying. Farm boys are tough and don't know much. That America is dead. It's better to throw off the old empire myths since they no longer serve a useful purpose of easing guilt and creating unity. The survivable path forward is another one.

@TiberiusBravo87 Japanese are traumatized by the idea of a nuclear bomb because it symbolizes their castration. The normal fire bomb runs did outrageous destruction to their wooden house cities. It was brutal and they were well past ready to surrender on reasonable terms. It was a scary bluff that the US could do that all day long with a single bomb and so the Japanese just bent over to condemn their future generations to having toothpick sized arms as the conquerors demanded.

That whole atomic bomb dropping move was just done to scare the shit out of the Russians, and to get some sick twisted evil scientist data about how bad it is to die from one. It was a big fucking waste of time though because then the Russian sympathizers inside of the government felt so bad about there being a single unipower with that kind of ability to wield global tyranny that they stole those secrets to create a competing power. Ever since this time the American political class has never been able to relax their hard-on for being the only side able to wield that level of power.

Now after succumbing to generations of that power madness the US has been hallowed out and quickly resembling it's 90's predictive programming. The Democrats are simply the embodiment of all of the strategies for fucking the world over come home to target it's own population. Live by the sword, die by the sword. In this case dying looks a lot like living in a Democrat run city. At this point generations of people in the world have fallen victim to US destabilization strategies and been taught to do this by the US that so many people now know how to do this shit that now anyone with a stack of money anywhere in the world is welcome to have their way with it.