@deeplydisturbed I think its time for me to move on, but I just dont know where to start, or how to delete these blackpilled thoughts. couple of times a day my mind pauses everything and tells me there is no hope. if I talk to a girl and we're having a good chat that I actually enjoy my brain would pause and remind me that these smiles are fake and that this changes nothing. my life is just happening infront of me and I am just spectating

@Vermillion-Rx I do have some things I can fix from what you mentioned. I'll definitely work on that thanks

@TheRedPike this further proves that the demand on high value men is increasing, 80/20 rule is real, and realer than ever

@TheRedPike I 100% agree, at least not in the west. I spend half of the year in the UK and the other half in the middleast (origin). approaching in a more traditional society still works this is how I got to know my ex. yet in the UK, it feels like the roles have somehow flipped, and if the girl isnt the one doing the pursuing you got no chance

@itsovER I've noticed a change. Women will aggressively pursue men in highly competitive environments. I experienced it myself decades ago. But those environments were unique and somewhat rare. These days women are significantly limiting what they consider an acceptable mate, thus turning most of society into a highly competitive environment. I've resisted saying this for years, but we might actually be getting to a point where approach has lost its utility.

@Vermillion-Rx I'll read more about these signs, I know a good amount and I doubt its that hard to tell and I dont think I am oblivious to a level I havent noticed any in 20 years but I'll definitely look more into it

@Vermillion-Rx thats true. I cant locate the problem man, saying its genetics and looks makes sense and makes it easy. I never had these encounters you talk about, and on the rare occasions I get friendzoned hard, although I know I make some shitty mistakes that probably kill the attraction and the more I learn the more I know of these, could be cope or could be true I dont know. normies rate me a 5 or 6 which is brutal knowing normies rate any fucking remotely attractive person a 10.

@Vermillion-Rx women out of my league wont talk to me. and now if I go for 2/10 chubsters they'll "dry up" and my looksmatch is entitled to a tiktok prettyboy in 2024 because of all the retarded simps replying to her stories. wtf do I do

@Vermillion-Rx maybe, but as for my case I wasnt even chasing, because I wasn't allowed through the front door in the first case

@CleansingFire from my experience, all my slayer friends have the girls come to them, if they try to pursue them it usually fails. I did the bare minimum to get my only gf. literally everytime I went after a girl I failed, left on read, or good old "I have a boyfriend", and it isnt a small number. the times I though a girl was giving me signals I was simply just friendzoned