@arakouzo I'm not trying to be annoying or anything. I've been learning about the red pil for over a year and i still am, im not very experienced with these stuff.

I just don't understand how this woman is loyal to me, deleted her dating apps without me asking, blcoked guys, hasn't been seeing anyone and is open to be ltr with me.

This sounds good right? However, i am aware of her past and redpillers say not to make these women LTR and im trying to understand how. Right now she is very solid girlfriend material and I would of made her my LTR couple motnhs ago already but haven't because im concerned with her past.

I'm trying to understand this process here as to why it would be a bad idea to make things more serious with her despite everything perfect, her following my programme apart from her shitty past.

@Amazonforest This happens enough times around The Red Pill that it's stopped irritating me.

Guys show up with shitty girlfriends that they want to date seriously. They swear to us that these shitty girlfriends aren't that shitty and ask The Red Pill guys what they think.

But these guys have already decided they're going to date this girl seriously. They're not going to take our advice. They just want us to either say that we agree she sounds great so they can feel validated (when they know that it's really a bad idea), or they want us to explain why it's a bad idea so they can argue and debate and feel unconvinced by our explanations (because they've already decided to date her seriously).

There's really nothing we can say on our end to a guy like this, because he showed up with a decision made and was just looking for validation. Either direct validation through our agreement, or indirect validation by not feeling convinced from our answers and therefore concluding he's right because we weren't convincing.

This used to irritate me, but it happens so much that I think it's just part of the process for these guys. They're not being deceitful and argumentative assholes on purpose. And in the end, maybe dating a woman like this is good for them because they can only learn these lessons the hard way. Would I have listened to a bunch of older internet guys telling me to string women along and dump girlfriends when I was 21 and thought I knew best? Nah. So it's not reasonable to expect you to listen either.

@arakouzo yes, you correct but now that I told her that I'm not taking any more lies and bullshit from her. She has been acting different, she has been doing anything i want, sexually and she started telling me all about her past with so much detail to the point I'm sick. What im saying is after i told her to cut all this shit she started being open, more honest and very much more sexual towards me.

Basically overall, what in trying to say is that despite all her red flags and her being a whore, i want to keep seeing her and have a good time whilst it still is fun. I can walk away sure but i dont want to because i like her. I'm just a concerned and scared that if i keep getting more invested into her, I'll be hurt and depressed again and I'm just looking for the best way to handle this women because right now you could say irs perfect as she is submissive, does EVERYTHING for me but how long will that last? I'd just like advice on how to handle that situation in order so i benefit the most from it. As i said right now she is full obsessed with me and respects me so much but how do i continue this?

@Amazonforest It is strange to me that you think a girl who lies and hides things about herself and puts on performances in an effort to pretend to be whatever she thinks you want, is a virtue and not a vice.

You want a woman to be herself, unfiltered, without performing or pretending. That's better and less stress for both of you. Women can only have true intimacy with a guy when they can stop pretending with him. This is why you only ever really see what a girl is like when you're hooking up her and she doesn't want a relationship. That's the real her who isn't pretending anything. The girl trying to trick a guy into being her boyfriend is just an act.

If she's portraying herself based on whatever she thinks you want from her to get what she wants from you, that's being a con-artist, not a girlfriend.