@Taurimpo There was some talk recently with other guys about not being okay with fucking women that fuck other men at the same time, i don't care about that if shes just a plate, but if a woman tries to friend zone me?

NO WAY, i have learned from the experience of others, and i have never let be friendzoned if i fucked already and if she's attempting to friendzone before getting there, then the procedure is the same, just next and ignore completely.

I genuinely don't feel i have ANYTHING to gain from orbiting a woman if she doesn't also give me sex, honestly, i would just rather do some hobby or be with the boys.

@Goingthedistance I lost my virginity to an escort at 23 lmao, my first gf was a 20y old while i was 25. It's all possible brah , if you are independent and working, then just keep working on yourself, physique and just be bold and interact with women as much as possible.

You should not feel ANY kind of remorse or w/e about dating much younger and it really is much easier to get them to go out with you and whatnot, infeact now that I think about it, ive always been 5+ years older than all of the girls I hung out with 1 on 1 LOL

@Bishopsankey09 also largely utilitarian thing, she pops a tire and thats 1 more person she can try reaching out to, to save her ass, this is why "lets remain friands" is for, its all to serve them because they are used to just being assisted and given everything in life

it could be just 1 toxic guy that she can't forget and thats a bit separate from her trying to keep everyone else as a fallback option as well but also still related, its just what some women do, they only think for themselves, just AF/BB, you were blue pilled at the time so she didn't have respect so that lead to not great sex.

The thing is MOST men, keep messaging her back/orbiting and so she does it just because she can, why wouldn't she keep options? They love the validation.

Those type of girls think they can get any man they want and that also if she is with someone, he won't forget her and will keep orbiting her, because thats what most non-red pilled men do

@AndrewTatesPancreas bro are you ok

but anyways, i think moving out asap is the most important move for a young man imo, i was sush a mess and clueless in my late teens and early 20s, i fucked around doing jack shit way too much , not that i have it all figured out yet but i mean if i could go back, immediately after graduating, i go abroad, save some cash, come back home, find a decent job and already be enjoying life as a 19-20y old and work on learning and building something.

sry quoted the wrong person

@carnold03 I am in the same exact situation, 26yo too, things weren't working at my previous job, so i quit it and went abroad for 3 months to save some money, i broke up with the LTR while there (we were there together lol), then i came back home, i have a decent bit of cash saved up but no job yet, i am moving out of my parents' the moment i get a job.

It all depends on if you would be spending all or almost all that you'd earn if you move out, if i have even 1/3 or even 1/4 of what i earn left over then thats enough for me to move out.

@AndrewTatesPancreas join something, like personally i got hella into armwrestling and i got a good armwrestling club nearby and theres good people there, but idk, just do something bro, get out of your house, that bitch goin outside your house and playing that music did this because she knows you likely are at home and sobbing, lmao, just go and do something bruv