@slutmagazine I see where you’re getting at with frame and rules now. At the beginning of the LTR I laid out all the guidelines and rules, and she hasn’t broken them. I told her if there was ever cheating she should leave me or if it was her I’d be gone, “us” would cease to exist. No partying alone, no going out to clubs unless we’re together. She looks up to me and likes when I lead, almost like a father figure, but I’m honestly confused on how to act on the “lectures/discipline” part. I’ve done it in the past, but on the other hand I can see where the dread or temper can backfire and she sees you lose frame bc you ARE pissed. That’s one thing TRP seems to advocate is being a rock, playing it cool, and just removing yourself. Works 90% of the time, but the other 10% I understand what you’re saying. It’s just the “how” part that gets me, cuz I can go off, I can be a heartless asshole but I’ve read where that shit can drive her into “sweet alpha’s arms” for a ONS and you’ll never know shit. Literally was just eating somewhere and heard a chick talking to her girlfriend ab “if he’s already pissed ab something I can understand and it makes sense, but if he’s happy and in a good mood and THEN gets pissed I can’t stand that”. Wtf is with women lol.

I have a lot of morals and ethics. She knows exactly what they are and abides by them. My rules are treat others as you want to be treated, no cheating or going out or (see above) will result, respect, and be a submissive helpmeet. I like to think I’m a fair and level guy, but besides being a little busier with my job and not being able to go out as much with her, my life getting better, and her getting a job, idk wtf it is. Which leaves me to think maybe some guy is being extra nice to her and she’s falling for some beta behavior. That’s why I ultimately hate LTR’s, you can do everything right and be on your purpose and then Mr Nice Guy comes along and shows her just a little more attention and then bam. But it’s like she’s torn, and she’s poking at my armor, and trying to get me to fall. But I won’t, then she gets turned on and all is good again- hell better than before. It’s the BPD behavior and wondering how the hell to either get the fuck away or stamp this shit out for good that’s getting to me. So what’s the correct response? Dread, double down on RP, soft/hard next? They all seem to be the way to go, anything but being “more nice” which is what I feel like she’s trying to get out of me. She’s a fucking riddle at this point and like @drake said, I’m thinking she’s possibly fucking around or seriously considering it. But I know I’m young, naive, and still learning so heads up and wisdom is much appreciated from y’all.

What’s going on fellow RP’ers. This forum is a breath of fresh air I gotta say. I’m brand new to this site and it’s 2 AM typing this out after dropping off my emotionally disturbed LTR (girlfriend?) but what the actual hell, how did I end up here? …

Idk what happened lol. I’m 24 rn and in most ways have never been better. Just graduated college, job prospects are going up, finally have time to work on personal projectslike starting a YouTube channel. Getting back to lifting 3-4 days a week instead of 1-2 now that I don’t work full time far away on top of full time college being over. Out of the military reserves in 3 months so I’ll have even more freedom/time. Safe to say, I’m finally living life now like I want and it’s all going up. It feels awesome. I’ve been looking into (and living in RP ways before I knew ab an actual community and method) for a little over 2 years now. Funny how once your eyes are opened to this life, it snowballs and makes more and more sense.

Now I’m gonna be real, I’m not a natural RP guy. I grew up beta as hell and in some ways still struggle with it. With time, maturity, and abundance mentality though it comes so much more naturally and I feel at my prime with this mentality. Truly feels like I’m rewiring myself into what I should’ve been all along- life is getting better.

My kryptonite is women. Yeah, I’m learning. With time I’m realizing how 95% of women are all the same in the sense they want to be lead, protected, provided for, and listened to. Before I lose you over that; on the flip side they’re mostly all hoes too. The double standards and desires are incredible. Ngl, women are almost hardwired these days with no repercussions to “get theirs” with no fear of any falling out or consequences. Most women live their lives in this “reality TV mode” where everything is a game- and my friend you as a man, are just collateral and a temporary part of their dramatic story. As a result any LTR/FWB/plate I get involved with I vet and accept whichever category they seem best suited for. Atm I have an LTR I’m exclusive with because I have morals, am a Christian and respect boundaries I set and would like (could have) married this girl. Thankfully I grew up with an alpha af father who gave me a lot of examples of what to be like with your wife and while back then I thought he was “too much” now I see he was on point with around 75% of it. Yet, their relationship is still fairly toxic and he’s left frustrated and outwardly PO’ed a lot (pretty blue pill imo). I want to eventually marry a no-drama woman who will be a good nurturer and mother, someone who craves a fair and just alpha/redpill frame. They exist, albeit these days it’s a numbers game and it’s like finding a unicorn, but I’m optimistic and don’t want to settle for anything less. I realize these days a man can be fooled for awhile and maybe the woman seems like she’s cut out, but ends up being another high drama or independent type. I know a lot of it is up the man and frame, but sometimes the baddest of boys will be ran over by a woman for “just how she feels”: this is where I can’t wrap my head around things..

Right now my head is spinning. It’s like I know the answers but I don’t know how to actually proceed. Today my LTR of 10 months had a freaking meltdown. Comparatively to some it wasn’t bad like popping tires or breaking windows bad, but holy. balls. of. fire. This was bad for her. We wake up, we fuck, she seems pissed, whatever. We have 30 minutes to get ready for church, she says I don’t have time, I tell her doesn’t matter you’ve gotten ready for work/school in 10 minutes we’re going. She acts all pissed saying she hasn’t washed her hair I just ignore or make light humor and get ready for the day. She looks great, we leave, go to church. We get there and walk in on time and she says she wants to sit at the back, i say follow me we’re sitting closer to the front (literally only 3 rows closer than the back). Worship is going on and she tells me with this sour face she doesn’t want to sit here, i say we’re sitting here, she doesn’t say anything and I brush it off and keep singing. End of song she grabs her purse, leaves, and goes in the bathroom and watches the sermon on her phone I shit you not lol. Reason I know this is I texted her ab 20 minutes after she left if she was sitting in the back (gotta show them youre not a total heartless asshole from time to time) and she replied she was in the bathroom watching it. I says “okay making sure you weren’t church-napped”, light humor usually does wonders instead of being passive aggressive or butthurt. She likes the message then I sit through church and exit the service talking to a lady who started chatting me up on the way out telling me she could possibly land me a career in the field I’m interested in. She asks for my number and we part ways. LTR sees this from a close distance and I know she’s pissed but she’s not saying a word. LTR and I exit church and get in the car. She’s on the verge of tears and so I make some small talk and end in silence. After a few seconds I say “baby is there something you wanna say, if so I’m right here listening” usually works every damn time. But no, not today! Lol. She says no, I say ight and drive a little bit and ask if she wants me to bring her home since I know where this day is headed- can’t go do shit with a girl on the verge of tears. She says “if you want” so we drive to her house and she starts with some tears and I’m cool as a cucumber before, during, and after what I’m gonna tell you. Mind you my frame was ROCK HARD today. Recently I’ve been working a job I get to interact with a bunch of chicks my age and with the abundance mentality and way life is heading I feel great, and I know it’s emanating from me since women are approaching me and I have no problem saying or getting what I want (you know the feeling, mojo on point). Back on topic: she starts with tears and I’m like “(LTRs name) if you’re not gonna communicate with me we should cool off and talk later, but I gotta go get stuff done”. Anyways this is prob a bad move since she hits me with the “you drove me home so you don’t wanna hang out” I calmly restate my point and then after she starts losing it. Full on meltdown. Saying i don’t care about her, it’s always about what I want, how I don’t care ab anyone but myself, I don’t listen to her, how she didn’t feel protected because I didn’t want to sit in the back and didn’t chase her when she left me in church (lol the fucking logic right). Never seen it before. She starts hyperventilating, tears like you wouldn’t believe, and goshdamn the SCREAMING (no words) in my car. Like this chick’s WORLD is falling apart. Like she found out her whole family was just killed or something. As this starts I’m thinking to myself “wtf is going on she can’t go in like this, LTR’s mom might call cops or neighbors might”. On the inside I’m fucking confused but outside I’m still cool. So (I prob screwed up here but damn I was freaked out ngl) I say let’s go for a drive how does that sound, she says through tears “good”. To myself I’m like Ight after a few mins she’ll chill and talk to me, it’s happened before when she’s mad. Fuck no. This bitch starts SCREAMING again and saying her head hurts and she’s clawing her head likes it’s gonna explode. I say you need to pull yourself together before we go in my house (I have roommates), she calms down after a few and then lies down in my car. Finally we go inside, she lies down and naps for a bit and I’m thinking this chick is wasting my time. I realize this LTR won’t work, I remember all the good times we had and I shed a few tears for ab 2 mins while she’s asleep on my chest. I get over it and feel indifferent and know it won’t last, not my first rodeo.

Long story short, she says she was sorry later and how I had to see that, I don’t say a word and she goes into some story ab how she had an anxiety/panic attack, how it’s only happened 2 other times in the past, that cuz she didn’t have enough time to get ready before church she felt gross, wanted to sit in the back cuz she felt like she was suffocating (right), and how she was having “conflicting feelings” (I’m thinking physical abuse parallel from her stepdad from years ago- hasn’t been an issue till today- I think is what she was getting at). Then says she doesn’t want me to think she’s crazy (of COURSE not).

I’m shook up and know this girl is batshit crazy now. She fucks like no other and will do —anything— I want sexually. She’s been super submissive in other areas up until recently. Ever since she got a job she’s miss independent now and bringing up more and more how I don’t care or whatever. Basically saying in so many words her job/manager cares more ab her than I do. I don’t care what she thinks or says but this shit is fucking exhausting. Convinced she has BPD and thinking she might possibly branch swing but testing my metal to see if it’s worth it. But then tonight after her bs she says she finds me so mysterious, she wishes she knew everything in my head, and basically how she loves when I do things my way. High attraction, but pissed the fuck off and trying to be more dominant- lol what?

So RP Community, where did I fuck up, what questions do you have (there’s more to know but wanted to keep it to the issue/story itself for the original post). With how life is honestly I’m at a point she could walk and I wouldn’t care. Almost wish she would, since I have no clue how to deal with this volatility and don’t wanna end up on the wrong side of shit (and I’ve dealt with another crazy LTR before). Thinking of soft next and/or demote; any advice y’all? Bonus: her “love language” is quality time (I see her 3-4 nights a week).

What’s going on fellow RP’ers. This forum is a breath of fresh air I gotta say. I enjoyed the asktrp posts on Reddit but since it shut down I figured I’d sign up and post here. I’m brand new and trying to post on the ask/trp side but can’t figure it out- public square seems the only place I’m allowed atm. It’s 2 AM typing this out after dropping off my emotionally disturbed LTR (girlfriend?) but what the actual hell, how did I end up here? …

Idk what happened lol. I’m 24 rn and in most ways have never been better. Just graduated college, job prospects are going up, finally have time to work on personal projectslike starting a YouTube channel. Getting back to lifting 3-4 days a week instead of 1-2 now that I don’t work full time far away on top of full time college being over. Out of the military reserves in 3 months so I’ll have even more freedom/time. Safe to say, I’m finally living life now like I want and it’s all going up. It feels awesome. I’ve been looking into (and living in RP ways before I knew ab an actual community and method) for a little over 2 years now. Funny how once your eyes are opened to this life, it snowballs and makes more and more sense.

Now I’m gonna be real, I’m not a natural RP guy. I grew up beta as hell and in some ways still struggle with it. With time, maturity, and abundance mentality though it comes so much more naturally and I feel at my prime with this mentality. Truly feels like I’m rewiring myself into what I should’ve been all along- life is getting better.

My kryptonite is women. Yeah, I’m learning. With time I’m realizing how 95% of women are all the same in the sense they want to be lead, protected, provided for, and listened to. Before I lose you over that; on the flip side they’re mostly all hoes too. The double standards and desires are incredible. Ngl, women are almost hardwired these days with no repercussions to “get theirs” with no fear of any falling out or consequences. Most women live their lives in this “reality TV mode” where everything is a game- and my friend you as a man, are just collateral and a temporary part of their dramatic story. As a result any LTR/FWB/plate I get involved with I vet and accept whichever category they seem best suited for. Atm I have an LTR I’m exclusive with because I have morals, am a Christian and respect boundaries I set and would like (could have) married this girl. Thankfully I grew up with an alpha af father who gave me a lot of examples of what to be like with your wife and while back then I thought he was “too much” now I see he was on point with around 75% of it. Yet, their relationship is still fairly toxic and he’s left frustrated and outwardly PO’ed a lot (pretty blue pill imo). I want to eventually marry a no-drama woman who will be a good nurturer and mother, someone who craves a fair and just alpha/redpill frame. They exist, albeit these days it’s a numbers game and it’s like finding a unicorn, but I’m optimistic and don’t want to settle for anything less. I realize these days a man can be fooled for awhile and maybe the woman seems like she’s cut out, but ends up being another high drama or independent type. I know a lot of it is up the man and frame, but sometimes the baddest of boys will be ran over by a woman for “just how she feels”: this is where I can’t wrap my head around things..

Right now my head is spinning. It’s like I know the answers but I don’t know how to actually proceed. Today my LTR of 10 months had a freaking meltdown. Comparatively to some it wasn’t bad like popping tires or breaking windows bad, but holy. balls. of. fire. This was bad for her. We wake up, we fuck, she seems pissed, whatever. We have 30 minutes to get ready for church, she says I don’t have time, I tell her doesn’t matter you’ve gotten ready for work/school in 10 minutes we’re going. She acts all pissed saying she hasn’t washed her hair I just ignore or make light humor and get ready for the day. She looks great, we leave, go to church. We get there and walk in on time and she says she wants to sit at the back, i say follow me we’re sitting closer to the front (literally only 3 rows closer than the back). Worship is going on and she tells me with this sour face she doesn’t want to sit here, i say we’re sitting here, she doesn’t say anything and I brush it off and keep singing. End of song she grabs her purse, leaves, and goes in the bathroom and watches the sermon on her phone I shit you not lol. Reason I know this is I texted her ab 20 minutes after she left if she was sitting in the back (gotta show them youre not a total heartless asshole from time to time) and she replied she was in the bathroom watching it. I says “okay making sure you weren’t church-napped”, light humor usually does wonders instead of being passive aggressive or butthurt. She likes the message then I sit through church and exit the service talking to a lady who started chatting me up on the way out telling me she could possibly land me a career in the field I’m interested in. She asks for my number and we part ways. LTR sees this from a close distance and I know she’s pissed but she’s not saying a word. LTR and I exit church and get in the car. She’s on the verge of tears and so I make some small talk and end in silence. After a few seconds I say “baby is there something you wanna say, if so I’m right here listening” usually works every damn time. But no, not today! Lol. She says no, I say ight and drive a little bit and ask if she wants me to bring her home since I know where this day is headed- can’t go do shit with a girl on the verge of tears. She says “if you want” so we drive to her house and she starts with some tears and I’m cool as a cucumber before, during, and after what I’m gonna tell you. Mind you my frame was ROCK HARD today. Recently I’ve been working a job I get to interact with a bunch of chicks my age and with the abundance mentality and way life is heading I feel great, and I know it’s emanating from me since women are approaching me and I have no problem saying or getting what I want (you know the feeling, mojo on point). Back on topic: she starts with tears and I’m like “(LTRs name) if you’re not gonna communicate with me we should cool off and talk later, but I gotta go get stuff done”. Anyways this is prob a bad move since she hits me with the “you drove me home so you don’t wanna hang out” I calmly restate my point and then after she starts losing it. Full on meltdown. Saying i don’t care about her, it’s always about what I want, how I don’t care ab anyone but myself, I don’t listen to her, how she didn’t feel protected because I didn’t want to sit in the back and didn’t chase her when she left me in church (lol the fucking logic right). Never seen it before. She starts hyperventilating, tears like you wouldn’t believe, and goshdamn the SCREAMING (no words) in my car. Like this chick’s WORLD is falling apart. Like she found out her whole family was just killed or something. As this starts I’m thinking to myself “wtf is going on she can’t go in like this, LTR’s mom might call cops or neighbors might”. On the inside I’m fucking confused but outside I’m still cool. So (I prob screwed up here but damn I was freaked out ngl) I say let’s go for a drive how does that sound, she says through tears “good”. To myself I’m like Ight after a few mins she’ll chill and talk to me, it’s happened before when she’s mad. Fuck no. This bitch starts SCREAMING again and saying her head hurts and she’s clawing her head likes it’s gonna explode. I say you need to pull yourself together before we go in my house (I have roommates), she calms down after a few and then lies down in my car. Finally we go inside, she lies down and naps for a bit and I’m thinking this chick is wasting my time. I realize this LTR won’t work, I remember all the good times we had and I shed a few tears for ab 2 mins while she’s asleep on my chest. I get over it and feel indifferent and know it won’t last, not my first rodeo.

Long story short, she says she was sorry later and how I had to see that, I don’t say a word and she goes into some story ab how she had an anxiety/panic attack, how it’s only happened 2 other times in the past, that cuz she didn’t have enough time to get ready before church she felt gross, wanted to sit in the back cuz she felt like she was suffocating (right), and how she was having “conflicting feelings” (I’m thinking physical abuse parallel from her stepdad from years ago- hasn’t been an issue till today- I think is what she was getting at). Then says she doesn’t want me to think she’s crazy (of COURSE not).

I’m shook up and know this girl is batshit crazy now. She fucks like no other and will do —anything— I want sexually. She’s been super submissive in other areas up until recently. Ever since she got a job she’s miss independent now and bringing up more and more how I don’t care or whatever. Basically saying in so many words her job/manager cares more ab her than I do. I don’t care what she thinks or says but this shit is fucking exhausting. Convinced she has BPD and thinking she might possibly branch swing but testing my metal to see if it’s worth it. But then tonight after her bs she says she finds me so mysterious, she wishes she knew everything in my head, and basically how she loves when I do things my way. High attraction, but pissed the fuck off and trying to be more dominant- lol what?

So RP Community, where did I fuck up, what questions do you have (there’s more to know but wanted to keep it to the issue/story itself for the original post). With how life is honestly I’m at a point she could walk and I wouldn’t care. Almost wish she would, since I have no clue how to deal with this volatility and don’t wanna end up on the wrong side of shit (and I’ve dealt with another crazy LTR before). Thinking of soft next and/or demote; any advice y’all? Bonus: her love language is quality time (I see her 3-4 nights a week).

@RemiOmega I agree with what @drake said but I’ll add my two cents. Looks is important to a woman more than society wants you to think. See, I know myself and know I’m attractive, but there’s gonna be women who see me and go “ew”. Women see super hot male models who are successful with smokin wives who still don’t care. Ironically though, it’s what you DO with what you got. Women are all about the feels, so once you get talking and flirting a woman can go from “ew” to “actually he’s a pretty solid guy”. Some chicks feel instant attraction, some take a little time. As drake said though, looking masculine is important and even more so, owning what you wear and enjoying it. Not a leather jacket guy? Maybe you like denim jackets more and can pull off a James Dean look. Every guy has his own “look” it’s when a guy has his confidence and swagger in what he wears that is attractive to women, at least in my experience. Us men see a certain type of lingerie and go “that’d be hot on x,y, and z girl”. But girls see a leather jacket and think “oh that’s cute” and prob don’t care if Tim, Bob, and Harry wear one. But oh shit, there comes Johnny Bad Balls with some swagger and owning who he is with a leather jacket, now it’s all of a sudden as hot as HE is and said chick is swooning. See how that works? Doesn’t make sense, but it does to them.

@hyperlink Thanks for the response and thoughts on this.

Ironically, my younger bro had something similar happen to him a few years ago. Chick would do anything for him but ends up being psycho months later (kinda like mine). She was much more outwardly psycho then my LTR but in the end she smeared his name on social media, accused him of everything, and then had the cops called on him and went in for questioning. It was a nightmare for him he’s still recovering from. I’d like to avoid a nuclear fallout like that. But as you said, his chick threatened him and her family with hurting herself. My dad’s advice then was to stop fucking (seems plausible but could really backfire with self esteem issues) and block/don’t respond to anything. He did end up responding a few times which likely played into the drama and made it worse, but everything above in the aftermath still followed. Tbh I feel truly trapped atm and glad you called out the severe possible outcome of this.

I’m hoping someone can comment with some experience on this situation and deep dive into what’s going on because this shit can’t get any crazier, I gotta figure it out asap.

@drake From one alpha wannabe internet guy to another, much appreciated.

This idea is plausible but (maybe I’m too optimistic) I’d change it to “she’s rationalizing -maybe- fucking someone else” since she’s still very submissive and sexual. I’m starting to think maybe, just maybe this girl actually deeply cares and I need to trickle some beta out to make her feel like I care? Ya know, some more 2/3 giving. Sometimes that shit works, and I’ve read it can be super effective with BPD types. At the same time, I want to distance myself from this chick and not return calls or texts but that might make her go even more psycho. I don’t want to get to the point where I see this girl once or twice a week just to fuck (seriously reconsidering sticking my dick in this crazy) and playcate her feelings just so she doesn’t explode. I almost feel like soft or hard next would explode in my face, and would genuinely appreciate if she texted me rn and said “we’re done”. I can’t be a mental and emotional tampon, and won’t let myself go down this road but I’m lost. Can’t sleep, eat, haven’t even responded to her super sweet good morning text. It’s like positive affirmation is the only thing I can think of that will work but I don’t want her to think she can get treated better if she acts off.

@asmallguy7808 Been in a very similar situation my dude. Lemme tell you at the end of the day a man is a man by keeping his word. Did you tell the LTR you and her were exclusive and expect that? If not, drive on and plow your fields. Women will want to lock down what they can’t have and respect you for being you. They can leave at any time. Either way YOU remain unphased and headstrong on your purpose. Speaking from experience and in a shitty situation with a LTR rn (check out my post) women will suck your time and money away with getting just a piece of you committed. Don’t settle until you find that unicorn, they exist, some find them sooner than later, some never do. Don’t base your life around how you think a woman might feel, you live and love YOU, and be honest and truthful if asked a question (eg don’t lie, but don’t give too much away that’s not asked). Good head and a seemingly good girl ≠ a marriage for 40+ years. Don’t get concerned with LTR’s and commitment when you’re on an upward bound and trajectory with your purpose and accomplishments (they’ll hinder your performance). Settle with a woman when you have a good foundation and where YOU are self sufficient and content first, and the woman is actually wanting to be a real man’s woman and not just use you for another episode of drama in her “reality TV mode”. You’ll know when you know.