6d ago 5th Generation War

@Typo-MAGAshiv as much as I am with you on the subject.

Sci fi writers created the fictional worlds that we live today. So yeah a fantasy world (called utopia, or abstract) is just that - sure, unless it become real (although I can't see socialism getting there).

human nature.

I'd say production.

If we could have robots manufacturing robots etc 0possibly we would end up in some kind of socialist hell, where there is no goal, and everything would be free. Hum race wouldn't overpopulate the earth, it would extinct faster than it heads there now.

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Typo-MAGAshiv

6d ago 5th Generation War

@adam-l

So basically I'm just arguing about the obvious, i.e. that you are closed to that perspective.

A) why didn't you lead with that, instead of wasting your time and mine with what you said instead, which made no sense?

B) of course I'm closed to communism. it's fucking stupid! it doesn't work, it never has worked, and it never will work. It will always collapse upon itself due to human nature.

Therein lies the value of utopias: they provide Insights

Fantasy worlds are just that: fantasy.

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Typo-MAGAshiv

6d ago 5th Generation War

Looking back over this thread, @adam-l, I think you're just a John Lennon fanboy who's upset that I called him a piece of shit, and was able to back it up, and so you grasped at straws and continue to grasp at straws to make him not a piece of shit.

But he was. And you know it's true.

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adam-l

6d ago 5th Generation War

@Typo-MAGAshiv

You are technically correct.

We've stumbled on a technical issue, that is. There is, of course, a moral dimension in sexual strategy. We've agreed, in TRP, not to engage in it, because it would bog down the discussion.

The thing is that politics doesn't lie on an abstract moral ground. It has practical implications, just as marrying the wrong woman. Maybe the arguments against capitalism are about those implications (i.e. war, "poverty" i.e. inability to live and reproduce etc), but the counter-arguments are wrapped in a moral coat, to anchor themselves in a moral outrage.

The philosophical -yet-very-pragmatic principle behind all this is that you have to stand outside a system in order to be able to see it clearly. Therein lies the value of utopias: they provide Insights. On the other hand, when TINA (There Is No Alternative), as Thatcher put it, every attrocity can be justified.

So, to get back at Lennon's case. It's not that you won't take his viewpoint because he was rich. You won't take Marx's viewpoint either, in spite of him being poor. So basically I'm just arguing about the obvious, i.e. that you are closed to that perspective.

6d ago 5th Generation War

Many have expressed indifference to the Charlie Kirk assassination at this point, curiously often the very individuals who were ready to launch the next Kristalnacht against The Violent Left on the basis of information available 2 hours after it happened. But, the Kirk Assassination was a Red Pill moment for millions, and the topic is so popular today that it has spawned its own subgenre of music! This song was inspired by one of Erika Kirk's many bizarre interview claims, that Charlie would come home on Friday nights, throw his phone in a junk drawer, and announce "Shabbat Shalom!" It slaps, and the AI Candace Owens singing got rendered quite well. m.youtube.com/watch?v=mFRretfjzzc&pp=0gcJCY4Bo7VqN5tD

adam-l

6d ago 5th Generation War

@Typo-MAGAshiv I have no clue about John Lennon other that he was Beatles and got himself and his group fucked by a borderline woman.

Probably was a borderline humself, as many top-tier artists.

I'm not in the habit of defending, or attacking for that matter, people. I'm more interested in social dynamics, i.e. laws and processes.

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Typo-MAGAshiv

1w ago 5th Generation War

@SwarmShawarma

change as big as that wouldn't just happen.

Of course not. It would take a lot of support.

The main proponent of it, Congressman John Linder, is dead, though, so sadly the FairTax probably is as well.

A guy can dream, though.

Budget could not be planned

This was accounted for decades ago. The CBO projected they'd bring in way more money.

And since when has our government stuck to a budget?!

lowest earners might be actually dying of hunger

That was accounted for with a prebate.

Google "fairtax" and read up on it.

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Typo-MAGAshiv

1w ago 5th Generation War

@adam-l

Calling out Lennon, or any of the others you mention, as a hypocrite, is a moral judgement.

Yes.

The "no moralizing" principle is supposed to hold for TheRedPill as a sexual strategy forum. It doesn't apply to worldwide politics, not only because politics is another issue altogether, but also because politics by its nature has morals at its epicenter.

Agreed.

So what is your issue with me calling those hypocritical pieces of shit what they are in that realm, while in the realm of pragmatic sexual strategy I advise men not to make the mistake I made?

Where is the issue?

So, again, you allow yourself the slack to make moral judgements, while denying it to others.

I made a moral judgement in an arena that, as you pointed out, inherently has morality involved.

while denying it to others.

I have never denied anyone else the ability to make moral judgments in politics. Show me where I have.

1w ago 5th Generation War

@adam-l

babies need their mother available otherwise they become irritated and end up mentally sttessed individuals, etc

I mean, more importantly, babies also need to be fed!

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Typo-MAGAshiv

1w ago 5th Generation War

@Bozza I gave it a listen

I share the hatred of income taxes, but the rest of it sounds retarded

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