Check how she treats waiters in restaurants, checkout staff, cleaners and colleagues -people she does not need to impress
I've followed and given that advice since before Red Pill even existed.
It's one of the pieces of advice that cuts both ways, too; women should also observe how men treat people they don't need or want anything from.
And more than just wait staff; even a lot of selfish, awful people know not to piss off someone who has unsupervised access to your food.
1) this should go in askTRP rather than TheRedPill.
2) this should go on the askTRP forum rather than here.
3) I'll go ahead and give my answer now, which I'll probably just copy and paste into a reply at your forums post, if you decide to make one:
None of this stuff is about how to bag any one particular woman. It's about increasing your odds with all women so you have options and abundance.
If any one woman rejects you or displeases you and you aren't in a legal entanglement with her such as a lease or worse, a marriage, then forget about her and go try to fuck some other women.
A girl I met yesterday in the club asked me to send her home. Made out with me in the car and gave me a blowjob. I didn't cum. Then I kept wanting to park my car and go up to her place, but she just didn't want me to do it. She said she wants me to miss her and remember her/be hard for me to forget her.
it's working. but wtf? im quite experienced and it's not normal for girls to able to just reject me when they already have gone so far in and are obviously loving the experience.
Side note: i have a main chick, and this girl knows it too. right now i know this girl's instagram but im not doing anything because im not too sure what to do. advice?
I would argue they treat you even worse at some point. Once they turn on you something flips in their brain associating you with wasted time and they almost make a point to twist the knife
@Vermillion-Rx Check how she treats waiters in restaurants, checkout staff, cleaners and colleagues -people she does not need to impress. When she stops needing to impress you, you will be next.
When you hear about work, does she have a lot of hard done by stories? Do tradesmen rip her off all the time? Does she fall out with parents and siblings? Did her exes mistreat her? You will be next.
Men somehow often think that because a woman is flirting with them or acting submissive to them in some way, they have the keys that others don't and they get what others can't from her. The only difference is that men in this situation are being pursued. Soon enough they will be getting the same as everyone else and she will feel they owe her more than everyone else because she takes their dick.
The more experience I get the more I realize correlations are an invaluable vetting tool. Here are two:
If the woman you are vetting feels drained when she helps people - instead of good about herself when she helps people - then it is a surefire sign that she is selfish. Women who actually care about people do not feel drained from basic acts of kindness and she doesn't have the capacity to love anyone, much less herself.
If a woman tolerates poor behavior from her closest associates (users, abusers, liars, cheats) and only cares how those people personally treat her, it is a good sign that she herself probably has those traits herself, doesn't have the self-esteem to find better associates, or both.
If a woman isn't bothered by evil she is not inspired by good. She will never do the right thing just because it is the right thing to do.
If a woman shows you a general lack of empathy unless it personally benefits her, it isn't because you don't deserve empathy, it's because she is cold. Don't let a woman convince you that you don't deserve humanity just because she personally lacks it. It isn't your fault, so don't let her convince you that it is
@Vermillion-Rx How hard to be is a really tough one. Its great to see you publicly wrestling with the question because I think its one we all have to wrestle with privately and I think getting it right is very important both for the future of these fora and for the men we would like to help.
We all need good advice, We all mess up, we all benefit from encouragement.
We have to tell them where we think they are going wrong but we have to keep them engaged. I tend to think friendly is the way to go but some guys really come over badly in their posts and then you I sometimes feel "This guy could do with a shake up, he is blindly going the wrong way pissing men and women off and not helping himself"
I think so much depends on if the OP is doing a "humble brag post of great stupidity" or if he is just a guy who is not very good with people and communication who is genuinely looking for help. When it comes to the first case, we still don't want to actually drive most of these guys away, just straighten them out to keep traffic up.
Overall, I would say that not piling in too hard on some guys too soon would be a good plan. If we all go in hard on a guy who is acting very dumbly, it will probably just drive him away. I appreciate every case is unique though, we actually want some guys to leave but they are a very small minority.
Hitting the right tone in written speech is tricky. I can think of some times, I wish I had not been quite so clever in my reply and thought more about the reader.
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