@CainPrice I agree that if you're having kids, you should do it in a marriage to retain all the legal rights you need. But that certainly doesn't change our biological urges to want to fuck every piece of nice ass that we see. My speculation is still that he got married, had kids, reverted to blue pill behaviors to appease wife, got cut off from pussy and now is seeking to make his decision seem morally superior.

TRP, for me, is the furthest thing from dangerous and problematic. I was in a very unstable relationship cohabitating with a single mother. I was doing and saying everything morally "right", trying to be the nice, reasonable, logical man that I thought I needed to be - but nothing was working, and the situation was getting worse. In 2016, I stumbled upon the RedpiIl subreddit and after a few weeks of study the realization hit me like a ton of bricks, and my life changed completely for the better. TRP literally saved me from an emotionally abusive relationship.

That's why I can't get on board with this guy saying that TRP is dangerous, because all I have to ask is where would I be now without it?

@Dzire It's not completely crazy for a guy to start from the position that the point of life is to reproduce. That's what every organism on the planet does and is driven to do, and humans are no exception. It's also not completely crazy to say that refraining from reproducing is therefore going against our nature as humans and as men. And it's not complete lunacy to say that even as shitty of a deal as marriage is, having kids in marriage is still better than having kids out of marriage.

It's a question of risk versus reward. In this guy's opinion, having kids is worth any price, even half your shit plus alimony and child support, and the emotional wreckage of losing your kids and going through a divorce, and it's stupid to prioritize your property and your emotional well-being over procreation.

Where he goes a little crazy is that he touts marriage and having a family as some kind of TradCon moral obligation, and the avoidance of this moral obligation as cowardice and a lack of masculinity rather than the calculated, well-thought, and deeply personal decision that it is.

But I think in his heart of hearts, he genuinely believes that The Red Pill is a big problem and is dangerous, because it's turning young men away from their obligation to marry and have families and instead teaching them to pursue casual sex and a hedonistic life of personal gratification and to distrust women.

He missed the boat when he failed to realize that this was never men's decision. Red Pill Men aren't hedonists who hate women. They're guys who used to be just like him until they realized that the women aren't playing by his set of TradCon rules. The Red Pill is the best system given the current state of things, and as things change, maybe The Red Pill changes with them or gets replaced. But for now, The Red Pill is a far superior alternative to the TradCon route.