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The American Black Community was the TRP Canary in the Coal Mine
Published 02/18/19 by S74RK [1 Comments]

What do you think of when you hear "Black America"?

Honestly. No political correctness required here.

Welfare, absent dads, single moms, rap music, maybe fried chicken and hair salons.

What seems unfortunate and even comical to many non-blacks is, I believe, a social phenomenon really worth investigating and understanding with respect to The Red Pill.

Let's start with some interesting information you probably weren't told in school:

* Back in 1948, the unemployment rate for 17-year-old black males was just under 10 percent, and no higher than the unemployment rate among white male 17-year-olds.

* In 1960, 22 percent of black children were raised with only one parent. By 1985, 67 percent of black children were raised with either one parent or no parent.

* In a similar timeframe (1970 - 1990), 3.1 percent of white infants were born to single mothers initially, increasing 6-fold to 18 percent for whites by 1990 (keep in mind, I don't think this statistic includes families where the father leaves after e.g. 5 or 10 years, either by his own choice or the woman's high likelihood to initiate divorce.)

* In the 1920s it was very common for white entertainers and other prominent members of society to have a night out on the town in Harlem, New York. Can you imagine that today?

* After the Civil War, Blacks had some educational institutions that had higher graduation rates and higher literacy rates than whites (see: Tuskegee Institute).

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* In 2012 The U.S Census Bureau released a report that studied the history of marriage in the United States. They discovered some startling statistics when calculating marriage by race. They found that African Americans age 35 and older were more likely to be married than White Americans from 1890 until sometime around the 1960s.

* As part of the 1960s welfare reforms, which disproportionately targeted and affected Black communities, a "man in the house" rule existed for some time, whereby welfare payments would not be paid out if there was an able-bodied man living in the house of the child. You know, a father. There were actually government raids to check if this rule was being followed.

* In general, policies over the last ~50 years have only moved in the direction of more welfare, easier divorce, and therefore less social need for the traditional husband and father.

Let's start with an obvious implication about not having a father: everyone on TRP knows about girls with daddy issues. There's not much more I can say on this topic, except to summarize that girls who grew up without proper father figures are exceptionally volatile (even more than a 'normal' woman) in longer term relationships. Therefore it's fair to conclude that Blacks have been living through this societal effect on steroids - but don't worry, the rest of us are catching up.

Here's a question. Do you think rap music and gangster culture and the related mindsets cause poor outcomes in black communities? Or do you think they're a result, and artists started making music directly depicting their reality? The answer may be both to some degree, but the latter hypothesis is seriously ignored and much more plausible. Negative socioeconomic trends emerged in black communities far before rap music did.

The "internet dark web" attracts all kinds of alternative viewpoints, but a pervasive one is that of racial superiority. I believe there is enough historical and economic evidence to suggest that one's race does not determine their outcomes, at least not nearly to the extent that their institutions and culture do. So for the closet white supremacists reading this, I have a question for you: how do you think your life would have turned out if you did not have a father growing up, if your mom had drug problems, if your community did not emphasize educational and work aspirations, if your cultural leaders told you nothing was your fault and was the fault of some other group, if your friend group and older kids at school included drug dealers and criminals, and if the women around you did not value intelligence and hard work and almost certainly had daddy issues?

Black men started understanding women in a raw form much earlier than whites with stable families and communities. What white man would you know in 1996 that could relate to this attitude?

But oh man can we at TRP relate to this in 2019... And when you think about it, so much of what is expressed in rap music with regards to relationship dynamics expresses the very worst realizations and experiences men have had in a TRP sense. Speaking of Black culture and TRP... isn't one of our patron saints Patrice O'Neal? Somehow that never seemed like a coincidence to me.

My thesis is this: when policy makers incentivized Black women to not have a husband, the traditional male-female dynamics and selection processes fell apart in their communities. Now whites and everyone else in America are catching up to the same fate, because with feminism, further state assistance, and female parity in the workforce, the same effect of women not requiring men long-term is happening.

That's right: I would argue that welfare and female career advancement lead to the same outcome, that is, female economic independence - at least independence from a husband. Going by current correlation, and a healthy TRP understanding of female nature, the same can be said about increasing educational attainment among women.

There's a striking parallel between the supposed leaders of the Black community who were pushing white guilt (rather than Black achievement) and the leaders of the feminist movement pushing male guilt (rather than healthy families). They act one way, and they live another. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, they live among the whites. Liberal men pushing for women's rights and more feminism? They're rich, sometimes attractive (like the actors), powerful (politicians), and they are typically married, and with families. And often with women on the side, all to themselves. Hey, why not encourage women to go out and be independent? Just gives more access to us!

It's because they "get it". All power and mating success has to do with relative discrepancies and advantages over other men. If you're better (richer, more attractive, higher status) than your immediate fellow man, you are all but guaranteed to succeed with women. Let everyone else fight for the scraps. If you empower your fellow man, create a culture and enforce female dynamics in such a way that they can't just run around and fuck off to the pretty new guy, or the slightly wealthier business owner, or the athlete visiting the town's nightclub this weekend... Well then guess what - less for you. Less for you, guy-already-at-the-top.

As someone who is, and by the looks of it will only continue to become one of those guys at the top - I find the mindset morally repugnant, because I actually care about my fellow man, and want to incentivize a peaceful and healthy place for him in society. I don't care how many women I fuck from online, I would prefer these apps didn't exist. I don't care how much money I make, I'd be happy (or try to be happy) with one woman trying to raise a family. I refuse to partake in this because I see just how rigged the game is for any man. But I won't actively endorse and support policies that marginally benefit myself and continue to hurt men around me.

Though sometimes I think maybe I should, just to wake men up to how fucked they're are. With every soy-latte-drinking, boardgame-playing, democrat-voting, homework-doing, open-relationship-having nu-male I come across, I just can't help but think: maybe men deserve it. If you love your delusions so much that you'd continue to let yourself suffer, while simultaneously throwing your fellow man (politically speaking) under the bus, maybe you deserve to get cucked and divorced and whatever else will inevitably come your way.

Remember, welfare and feminism didn't come into being. Everything women have, and ever have had, was given to them by Men.


Why care about this stuff? Isn't this social science, politics, whatever? A common sentiment on male-oriented websites, even on TRP, is something to the effect of -

"That's why you ignore girls and focus on life and your dreams." (I copied this comment from the Ice Cube video above.)

Two comments. One, do your dreams honestly not include having children, perhaps a stable family, and god forbid a long-term female partner? And two, the point of this post, is to see that it's all interconnected. Social institutions, cultures, and norms directly effect human behavior, and activate different parts of women's selective paradigms.

Eventually I'd like to write a Part 2 of this post comparing mainstream Western cultural (and dating) trends as not just having elements of Black communities, but also those of Japanese society. What a mix. To quickly summarize, from the former we see the disintegration of the family unit and the disincentives to having husbands and fathers. But with the latter, we see a reduction of dating and sex and even children in general, as we work harder against a slowing economy to stay in the same place.

Not that women care how hard you work these days :)

The Average Western Man is Fucked For Relationships. Back to TRP after 4 years: Thoughts and Observations.
Published 01/28/19 by S74RK [3 Comments]

The outline of my post: the modern man is fucked. This is perspective coming from someone who easily sleeps with lots of women in one of the "harshest" North American cities, where lots of pick up artists had their start. If I have trouble maintaining a relationship past 2 years, I don't know how the FUCK most men are hoping to do so. There are so many systemic challenges in Western society to stable and lasting relationships. I hope to share some useful insights, depressing findings, maybe an interesting story, and share some ideas for moving forwards as men.

First of all, a brief pre-amble. I joined TRP on Reddit almost 4 years ago on the same username. I had some decent initial success with women as a young-mid 20s guy, and hopefully even in my immaturity made some decent posts on the sub. Well things really picked up for me and I didn't have time to visit the manosphere anymore. You see, I was getting laid. A lot. I've spend over 6 years of my late 20s in long term relationships, and yet I've stilled racked up 45 lays, mostly in between these longer term relationships. In the summer of 2017 in 3 months I had over 1100 tinder matches before I deleted my account to be with my last partner. I'm not a big muscly Chad, but I've grown into somewhat "pretty-boy" looks, I studied pickup in my early 20s, always optimize for logistics, and I generally have sky high confidence, energy levels, and low inhibition from being an entrepreneur. Not a bad combination if you're not a 6'2 jock.

Anyways, I wanted to write and reflect after ending things with my last partner. No, this is not some boohoo it's over story. Don't get me wrong it was something and I naturally feel sad. But on the day of the 'breakup' I literally woke up from another woman's bed and walked to the cafe. The day before that I bedded a new one in my office. Am I piece of shit? Probably not by what is preached by the senior TRP members. The breakup had nothing to do with me being a fuck boy. If anything that's what got us started in the first place, just being so 'different', 'mysterious', 'exciting', blah blah blah.

It came down to her doing a calculated weighing of options after over a year and realizing that the combination of her family hating me, the distance of studying in the next town over, and being surrounded by new options, and perhaps just the fading novelty tilted the calculation against me. There were other factors, such as sex-drive-lowering medication, that I think really played a part. But it doesn't matter, the pattern is this: time passed, commitment couldn't escalate passed a certain stage for two people in their 20s, and it ended. Did I make mistakes? Sure, I drank, I got demanding and controlling (I can't fucking stand smartphones and other people popping up), I basically just acted like someone's grandfather might have. That doesn't exactly fly in modern environments.

Overall she was fairly low on red flags. Very beautiful and intelligent, from a decent home with both parents, and pursuing a prestigious career. Maybe the career part is a legitimate red flag; at the very least it becomes an obstacle or logistical hurdle. Anyways, not perfect but I want to make clear that in this city she was probably top 95th percentile for women with good values. Yes they all suck and are all women, but there's still a spectrum of shittiness. She never went out for drinks with friends, didn't party or club, didn't spend extended time with guy friends, etc. I mean she still had them and there's always little shit here and there popping up on the smartphone but that's every woman now-a-days. She used to offer letting me check everything on all her devices which was sweet. I would say the first 6 months, I played the perfect aloof fuck boy, then things got serious and started to seem that they could be real, so I tried making them as proper as I could. She went along with most of it. But eventually external social pressures compounded by family hate for me broke through.

Anyways, point is she was pretty decent, I'm definitely catch, and actually provided a lot of support and positive qualities as well as the raw attraction and sex. This was something that one could imagine having easily worked out in a different time and place. I've now had 4 relationships that have lasted between 1 and 2 years, real long term stuff. And I've realized an important pattern: when commitment is high and things are fresh, problems are either swept aside and minimized, or enthusiastically worked out. When things go on longer and the relationship doesn't progress as it naturally would for our ancestors - then everything becomes a problem. And the problems build.

So my big theory is this: if the partner doesn't have your kid after some amount of time, they start looking to move on.

Seems like a weird conclusion to make, everyone's pretty much anti-kids from what I can tell in the West, and probably here on TRP too. Or maybe they'll have 1 or 2 when they're "settling down" at 30+. But here's the thing our ancestors had to deal with and work out: necessity. Males are valued when they are needed. If males are not needed, they are not valued. So by not being in a situation in which the average man is needed, the average man is fucked.

Males are wanted if they're in that small percentage group that can illicit extreme romantic intentions. But even that - how long does it last? Plates spin and fall off after some time of course. Relationships can drag things out longer because some intention and purpose towards the future is added. But that future never comes. Because that future, between a man and a woman, is meant to create a child and a family.

We don't even understand all the amazing things that happen to a woman's brain during pregnancy. But we do know for example that during (natural) childbirth, extreme amounts of hormones are released that bond the mother to her infant. It's not an evolutionary stretch to believe that humans would have mechanisms to bind the biological mother to the biological father, in order to ensure a high investment environment for the child. But it's also not an evolutionary stretch to believe that after the little child can fend for itself, mommy might consider getting some new genes for diversity purposes, while relying on existing infrastructure to raise them...

There always has and always will be a constant tension between men and women, between competing sexual objectives and tricky environmental trade-offs made by both. But with mostly stable monogamist societies with traditional values, we established a decent-enough trade-off. In fact, it's a lot like democracy: it sucks but it's better than any other system ever tried. The instability stems from the fact the the average woman is not attracted to the average man. So anything giving women more power and freedom necessarily rocks that boat.

The other big disrupter is birth control. It's unreal how much this technology has changed male/female relationships. Birth rates plummet. Relationships become commodities. Dangers are mitigated, and women can make much worse (and shorter term) choices and consciously give in because of the lack of consequences. The sexual revolution was The Great Lie to beta males the world over, and they bought it - hook, line, and sinker. Pussy doesn't "trickle down", it's like money: it concentrates to the top earners. An analogous lie was sold to the Western middle class regarding globalization. Yes, you get cheap Walmart goods. But your working wages are now in direct competition with the poorest parts of the world. Was it worth it?

Feminism and globalization are parallel forces to do with increasing access, and therefore increasing competition in a game where winners take all and everything valuable accumulates at the top to fewer and fewer people. They are forces to be reckoned with, and along with birth control technology, have led to the erosion of anything resembling the families started by your grandparents.

So what would I say to men reading this?

First of all, I would say that just because you can study TRP, improve yourself, and start becoming one of the more desirable guys, doesn't mean that you will enjoy this system long term. Unless you're a complete psychopath - and if so, power to you, that legitimately sounds like an easier life - you will not enjoy the modern Western (and increasingly online) dating markets.

Next I would say: stop propagating the bullshit that got us here in the first place. Whatever you do in your personal life, fine, but don't vote for anything that "opens up markets", gives women more power, and generally is socially liberal. I have zero sympathy for liberal cucks who will vote for dissolving the borders of a country then get upset when women start getting knocked up by Pablo the drug dealer who's just "so misunderstood" from down south.

There's no turning back a lot of things, but god damn don't make it worse. I'm not saying to vote Republican or anything (from what I can tell it's just a different side of the same globalist coin) but pick the lesser of evils for sure, and stand up for values that would lead to positive changes. I used to be an immature atheist, belittling religious people as irrational. But is there not rationality in living in a system where women are much more likely to be virgins, have strong values, and make better wives?

Though I guess the above paragraph is philosophical rather than actionable. I really don't know what to do. In the short term, you should just do what I did. Maximize your looks. From what I recall this can be a touchy subject on TRP, especially when stupid incels get autistic about it all. But here's the thing: TRP always tells you to work out and make your body more masculine. Of course, it increases attraction. So why not get lean, work out your jaw/neck/traps, get a photographer, and maximize your attraction even more directly? A Tinder photo that is 10% better doesn't get 10% more matches. It gets 10 times more matches.

I'm still trying to figure out what's next myself. Relating to my most recent experience, yeah I'll be sad for a bit, I'll bang it out fairly quickly, then what? I love focusing on my businesses, but honestly I want a family. I don't know what the right solution is for that. All I see are trade-offs, and a fucking annoying future. Do I want be thinking about random texts popping up on my future partner's phone in 5 years? That's fucked. Do I want to act like a fucking gang banger and just have baby mommas? I could do it, but that's also fucked. I have a few mature friends with similar TRP insights and there's not much of an optimal action plan anyone's come up with. One is going the baby momma route, another was married and now just manages it as best he can, another fucked off to Asia. These are the best options the Western man can come up with?

"We Don't Win Anymore" is a phrase that just came to mind. Trump tapped into something that wasn't just economic, but cultural as well. I'm not saying he's a great politician or a savior or even that he should've been President. But did anyone else really resonate with men at all? Did anyone else even pretend to allude to their pain and suffering and sense of loss? The sense of false dreams, both economic and personal? I don't think "enjoy the decline" is a useful thing to say to be honest. I've been "enjoying" it more than the vast majority of TRP members I reckon. I ain't enjoying it anymore.

Come on, let's not cope and pretend we can all just enjoy self improvement and mindless sex. First of all, many won't make it just due to genetics (bad looks, short height, poor muscle density, whatever). Second of all, there's no peace once you get there. It's monkey behavior: fuck to fuck. And you see how it all works, and the tricks you use start being used by other men against you. Then you're 30+ and you start entering "the leftover pool". Maybe now you'll settle down, maybe even with a mid 20s girl, but still ironically tricking yourself into the very thing you wanted to avoid: a woman who's still been around the block and is close enough to the wall she may as well be there. Because her best child rearing years are past, and gosh nobody has kids in their mid 20s, wait until 30 something why don't you!

And third of all, men want kids and family at some point, period. Denying this is beyond disingenuous.

It's not looking good boys. Those men going their own way are pretty lame but I understand where they're coming from. Maybe I'm just young and optimistic, but I still ask: is there no better we can do, than the expected outcome? You can improve a lot but still only do marginally better and not come close to what you really want.

A point I was trying to make in this blog post is that even men like me with a ridiculous amount of options encounter a ridiculous amount of ways that relationships can fail. And let's face it: men have been shit to other men. It's in our nature, we don't have group cohesion and shared interests nearly to the extent that women do. The violence and uncertainty of the past made us grow closer and stronger because we really did have shared interests, and big problems from other groups if we didn't achieve them. But now, in the West? It's a consumerist waste land. Male bonding is dead. I see some cucks playing video games or board games, but that doesn't count. Something is fundamentally wrong with the modern man. I see this all the time in entrepreneurship - lots of big talk, then giving up after a year. Better play it safe and have at least some career and status to your name, else when the day of reckoning comes in your 30s, you'll be hung out to dry.

There must be another way. There must be more to this. There must be better options out there.

If I think of anything, I'll let you know. And if you do, please share as well.