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Nobody was hand-held to enlightenment.
Published 04/02/19 by perrolo [0 Comments]

Many have brilliantly explained what TRP is much better than I could ever do. I always loved the simple analogy of TRP being a toolbox, where you get what you need in a certain point in time.

This analogy is deeper than one could think on the surface. Toolboxes are there for when you need them, once you use the tool you put it back in the box and you put the box in the garage. You only ever see the toolbox when in need.

In some occasions, you need the toolbox but you can't physically have it right there. Don't worry, as this is a metaphor and TRP is a mental model toolbox that you can save in your mind.

Because TRP is a toolbox, you can stay close to the toolbox for others to use, helping keep the tools clean and maintained, ensuring proper use and instructions to newbies. The toolbox isn't a well, so there is no need for you to stay your whole life next to the toolbox and guarding it.

Eventually, you have the mental model toolbox ingrained in you and you don't need to revisit the toolbox as often. This is like foreplay for beginners: whenever you think she's ready, assume she's not and keep going.

Transcending TRP.

When I found TRP in 2014, I was told that ECs and the guys who are at the top of the hierarchy eventually move on from the subreddit. It was common knowledge that after a while, you figure out most of what it is that you needed figuring out and you move on.

Some ECs stay and help the upcoming generation of TRPers, which is why I subscribe to the famous post of respecting the badge.

There will come a point in time where you have used and tried the tools that you wanted, and if you're not staying to help others here, you will need to move on to bigger things in life. While Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs isn't exactly science, it serves the idea that once that you are abundant in pussy, you move on to a higher level of needs.

And this is where I wanted to get at.

What comes after TRP?

Here is where it gets less clear, as you have to go through your own path. Here at TRP others can teach you how to get laid and fit, how to see through the narrative and how to become an independent man, but there comes a point where you need to let go of the hand.

Nobody is hand-held to enlightenment.

You are on your own here, for the most part. This is where building a tribe or network of like-minded people who are in a similar situation falls into place, but it is not where I want to get at.

Where I want to get at, is that here you are alone, but there will be many claiming you are not. You see, I am part of the Manosphere Twitter corner, and believe me when I say that most people who know learn about the Manosphere don't even know that TRP.RED or the subreddit exist.

This is what Illimitable Man was referring to in his famous last article on the monetization of the Manosphere. Some have started to call it the Manuresphere, which is absolutely hilarious if you ask me, I'm suprised nobody in the blue pill came up with it ages ago.

Why will "Twitter Manosphere" claim that you are not alone in TRP transcendence? It could be for many reasons which I don't know, but one of them is to keep you dependant. Dependant on them, their courses and "tribes".

This is not a critique on monetizing TRP, I believe in free markets. There are many machiavellians, dark triads, etc amongst us. Some decide to monetize their knowledge, others don't. I have no hate towards anyone.

When I entered TRP, Dark Enlightenment was sold as the next step. Roosh came up with his Neomasculinity too. A few years after that, it was the Alt Right that was the next step. Some guys came up with Upstream TRP, which I have no clue if it's still going on and I never really understood what it was.

I never bought into any of them, if we're being honest. I believe that there is a next step after TRP, I just don't think many are at that point yet.

The ones who are ready to transcend TRP are, for the most part, not in TRP anymore. Some have become millionaires, others are building empires, companies, influencing in every way imaginable. A small few stay behind and help as ECs and mods.

And I mean it when I say most are not ready to transcend TRP yet, the reason being because many still want to be hand-held.

I have found many of you guys outside of TRP, mostly on Twitter. Guys who are killing it and you would never think they used to participate in TRP. We are all connecting and building our tribe outside of TRP. What we all have in common is that once we needed help, and we looked for it and found it here.

Some are developing their own philosophies. Some are starting startups. Some are running startups. Some are in politics and you will only ever find out they used to be part of TRP if they tell you about it.

Where do I want to get at?

What comes after TRP isn't a substitute for TRP. The toolbox is there, you know go and build something with it. There is a reason why RPS started the tag "building tribes".

Tribes and herds are not the same. A tribe is built by equals, a herd is built around one person, who coincidentally receives economic incentives to keep it that way. Still, not hating on it, it works for some people and that is all that matters.

When you reach the point of thinking you need to transcend TRP, know that it is mostly a lonelier road than TRP in itself. There isn't that much of a blueprint. Here is where your leadership qualities have time to be put to a test and to be honed, as many other skills you have.

Many will try to enchant you with their narrative. They will say TRP is dead or dying, and that it needs to be transcended, only to then offer their purplepill herd solution.

TRP is a step closer towards self-fulfilment and enlightenment. It is not the end of the journey. Beware of those who want to hand hold you further past this point, it is a lonely road after TRP. You can, however team together with others in the same spot, and while you all go in your individual boat, you can go together in a similar direction.

Nobody was hand-held to enlightenment.

Loneliness & Young Men
Published 01/25/19 by perrolo [0 Comments]

How is it going folks. Today I present to you a Twitter Thread I saved which is highly relevant to TRP.

Full disclosure: I did not write this. I find value in sharing other's works as long as they are credited. Sometimes you need to connect the right info with the right people.

I was reading in an old book yesterday, and the author remarked, only in passing, that young men in particular tend to feel very lonely. It's striking and shocking that he could say a very obvious thing like this without "evidence", which is an appeal to authority.

If you make a statement about the nature of men or women, there is a kind of luminary who will come out of the woodwork to ask, incredulously, "evidence?!" as if she would read a scientific paper and change her mind, as if social science research were anything but fiat.

But back to loneliness, and obviousness. Things that once were obvious are now quite hidden; we have rejected the wisdom of the past in favor of modern ideas. Who could doubt that we, from our vantage point atop a mountain of smart phones, know better than all of our ancestors?

(There is a treasure we can find in modernity, which was denied to people as recently as 2 generations ago; the joy of discovery. All literary works written prior to the 20th c. have been so defamed and hidden that we may discover them anew, as if we were the first to read them).

I was thinking about loneliness, and the loneliness that a young man feels, and I think he feels lonely in three distinct ways.

  • He feels loneliness for a woman.
  • He feels loneliness for a brotherhood.
  • He feels loneliness for a lord, which we may think of as being for god

And these three types of loneliness are not commutative, and the satiation of one will amplify the emptiness from the others. And in modernity we men have been forced to pretend that these feelings are inconsequential, or wicked, or non-existent, respectively.

We have been told that these three forms of loneliness that a man feels are instances of "toxic masculinity," and the cure for these problems is supposed to be a systematic abandonment of masculine ways of thinking and being.

Our loneliness, they say, comes from our alienation from our feelings. Women, who are obviously "in touch" with their feelings, do not have OUR problems, but because we "suppress" our feelings, our suffering traps us, and we even impose it on women!

My friends, we lack the language to articulate the magnitude of this monstrous insult, but fortunately I have been blessed by the good lord with the gift of the gab, so let me see if I can elucidate.

First, the loneliness that we feel for a woman, we are told, is a case of entitlement, which is an unjust belief that one deserves something. We are not supposed to suppress our pains, we are supposed to "be vulnerable", but only in ways that women have prescribed.

Only an entitled loser who can't get laid would ever express the pain that he feels from his hardships attracting a woman, of course. So this is not a pain we are allowed to feel, because this pain imposes on women, even if only in general. Only "toxic" males feel this pain.

Second, the loneliness that we feel for a brotherhood, we are told, is an engine of oppression and exclusion. When men are allowed to form mens' organizations, they use them to systematically exclude women from power and influence.

Therefore, all male spaces must be denatured.

In this program for society, any group of men assembling together for any reason must be seen with suspicion. If men do wish to associate on the basis of shared masculine interests, the only option they have is informal purposeless groups built around an interest in drinking.

But men need male friendship, and in particular, they need to be able to struggle together towards mutual goals. No one ever questions that women might have or pursue this need, but if men express a desire for exclusively male spaces, they are defamed as gay or misogynistic.

Third, there is the loneliness that we feel for a lord, which is the desire to follow a worthy leader. This is the hardest to understand, especially in America, where we are taught that all leaders are evil, and that the ideal is to be "free," which means to be leaderless.

If there are leaders, we are told, there will be abuses of power, and somehow it would be better that the whole world devolve into a centerless shamble than for even one person ever to abuse their power. And no one even thinks of the abuses we suffer at the hands of the void.

In older times, the pain of having no lord was well known, as in the famous Anglo-Saxon elegy "The Wanderer", a poet laments:

Since long years ago

I hid my lord

in the darkness of the earth,

and I, wretched, from there

travelled most sorrowfully

over the frozen waves

I have shared this fragment of a poem with you because I believe that verse can awaken us to an emotion we had hidden in ourselves, even when we had no awareness or language with which to find it.

Nearly everyone wants to follow a strong and powerful leader, though many are unaware of it. Leading is very hard, and it weighs heavily on the soul. Only a truly callous person could carry the burden of leadership without feeling its weight.

To follow a great leader is far more freeing than the filthy rags that leftists have the shamelessness to call “emancipation”. Sartre referred to the awareness that you alone bear responsibility for your actions as nausea.

To compensate for our lordlessness, we fall into the worship of celebrities, or CEOs, or politicians, or even twitter gurus, and we build a proxy of the aura of a leader; a little from here, a little from there, never quite filling the gap.

We men are guilty of suppressing our emotions! That’s what they say. But is a child guilty of suppressing his incontinence? Is shame not the right reaction when you piss yourself in public? (Oh god, that’s ableist!) If we showed you our true emotions, you would shriek ever louder.

We do not have your PERMISSION to tell you of our loneliness. These emotions do grievous harm to you: the need for a woman, the need for brothers, the need for god. These emotions oppress you, my love, and when I say “my love” I refer to all women everywhere, truly.

In the deranged thought of the devil, all differences between men and women are seen as aberrations. Man does not emerge from the womb fully formed; to be worthy, he must be tempered, and the shame he is made to feel for showing weakness is part of the fire that forges him.

The proper emotions of man are not the emotions of weakness, which are the emotions of children, and which are suitable for women, because they must raise children and be among children, the better to empathize WITH their children.

And again, man does not emerge from the womb fully formed, which is why he must learn mastery of his emotions just as he must learn mastery of his bladder. Only the most contemptible kind of idiot imagines that induction into manhood could come without pain, or without sacrifices.

This is what they want to take from you! Is it pleasant for the block of marble to be struck by the sculptor’s chisel? Do you think order, and prosperity, and security could come without a cost?

Feminists call the structure of society the “the big Other” and by this they mean all social orders are antagonistic to them. When a father teaches rules to his child, they call this castration. Could anything be more alien, more alienating, or more opposed to life and humanity?

Every time this topic comes around, I see people asking, “what about toxic femininity?” I’ll solve the puzzle for you. Toxic femininity already has a name in polite society: they call it feminism.

The guy hits the nail on the head. I won't add my personal view as it doesn't differ much from the text above.

Dude's username is 0x49fa98.

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