2y ago  The Hub

@arakouzo what do you mean when you say this? This is going to make it really hard for you to ever consider dumping her ass to be one of the tools at your disposal in the relationship, it's going to make you unlikely to deny her things she wants or asks for when you don't really want to give them, and when you do you're likely to get all weird and try to explain yourself and justify as though you need her validation and permission to say no, and for those same reasons you're likely to give up on things you like or want if she asks you to because you're uncomfortable telling her to go fuck herself.

As for not knowing what I want, i want to be in a relationship with her but so far I've been leading her on because I am insecure about her past as i dont want to get fucked over and look like a fool. I'd just like some advice on how to handle such situation when I'd still liek to see the girl because i like the way we are together and how we get along. How to be the confident guy that she will not resist? I've been acting like that the whole time but I'm often not that but i hide it well.

I am 21 years old and found the red pill about a year and half ago.

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2y ago  The Hub

@Amazonforest

Damage girl wants a LTR, confused what to do.

I have been seeing this girl for over 8 months now and everything has been going good. This girl wants a relationship from me but im not sure how to handle these red flags.

She has lied to me about her past and after lots of discussion she finally opened up about it The red flags:

Attention seeking and need for validation, would send nudes to lot of guys.

For a few months she sold nudes when she was 16

She was raped when she was 15

Likes rough sex bdsm

She was basically an online slut. Here's the thing though, this is her past and whilst me and her were together she has given me ZERO red flags. We are not even LTR and she has been loyal to me. She has not sexted or sent nudes to other guys. This girl told me she is obsessed with me and loves me and treats me well.

She has given me her phone password, she deleted her dating app and blcoked guys she spoke to (i never asked for this) She tells me she is all about me and really wants a relationship and for us to work.

I'm really not sure how to handle this. Her past bothers me a little but I know that she has given me 0 reasons to leave her whilst with me.

Consider investing in a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, also known as the late Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's mirrored on several sites and a podcast. While his media is a bit pricey, it's well worth the investment as it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from, but I would also suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. If you've already found you'd like to read his book, but find money is an issue for you, you should be able to find copies through torrent sites, but I won't say where you should start on that endeavor. Given his passing, it's entirely possible that his site will soon have a sale and afterwards his media will likely be more expensive.

As for this chick, you can't inspire or instill loyalty in a whore and contrary to what others may say, that is exactly what people who sell nudes of themselves are. It reads like your gut is steering you right with the red flags. Don't second guess those instincts. Most guys who do end up regretting it sooner or later. Psychotic females are predictable only in that they will do what is irrational and contrary to their best long-term interests for short-term gains.

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2y ago  The Hub

@Amazonforest If you were fucking three women right now and not just one, this one girl you like wouldn't seem nearly as special. She'd seem like a mess.

I don't think you have the capability of entering into an appropriate relationship with this girl.

I don't know if she'll misbehave with you or not, but she's going to grow closer to you and see you for what you really are, and she's going to test you. And you are the kind of guy who thinks that if a woman wants something, he needs to have a good reason before it's okay to say no.

This is going to make it really hard for you to ever consider dumping her ass to be one of the tools at your disposal in the relationship, it's going to make you unlikely to deny her things she wants or asks for when you don't really want to give them, and when you do you're likely to get all weird and try to explain yourself and justify as though you need her validation and permission to say no, and for those same reasons you're likely to give up on things you like or want if she asks you to because you're uncomfortable telling her to go fuck herself.

You really aren't coming across as a self-aware guy who knows his needs and wants and prioritizes them and is able to navigate a relationship in a way that satisfies his needs and wants while granting a woman an appropriate place in his life. Are you under 30? You seem young.

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2y ago  The Hub

@Zavss yea, that's what im thinking too. She told me she will do anything for us to work. This is where i am so confused. She has a horrible past and she was a horrible person but with me it's all different where she acrually wants to make it work (i guess RP works)and before you say actions over words, she has taken actions to do that and make herself better for me.

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2y ago  The Hub

@arakouzo I like your answer because you are correct. I like her and the chemistry is there and I'd like to move things forward with her because she wants that too. However, she has red flags and after reading lots of RP content they all said not to get with those girls.

Right now, this girls wants a relationship with me and its very committed to me but her past could be an issue, i guess it's my insecurity that she will be like that again even though it was due to low self esteem and need to feel better about herself.

I just want advice on what would be an appropriate way to approach this...

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2y ago  The Hub

@Amazonforest You're telling us all about this woman. Her past, what she's done to you, what she's doing for you now.

If you had boundaries, you'd be honest. "I like this girl. She's good to me. I'm going to date her, and if she fucks it up, I'll have no problem dumping her because I have good boundaries."

Instead, you're wringing your hands and furrowing your brow debating whether it would be okay to tell her no and whether your reason is good enough, or whether you're being unreasonable.

You want us to tell you that it's okay to date her because you like her. And you won't even be honest with us, some random dudes on the internet, about that.

You're not looking for a reason to say no. You already know all of the reasons to say no. You're looking for a reason to say yes. You want us to tell you that you shouldn't bother with a serious relationship with this girl, and for our reasons to fall short, and for you to debate us about them and justify to you why you shouldn't. Because what you really want is a relationship with her, but for some reason, you need us to fail to convince you not to so you can feel better about doing it.

All of this does not paint a picture of a guy with strong boundaries who can handle himself well having a relationship with a questionable woman.

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2y ago  The Hub

@arakouzo what do you mean i have poor boundaries? This girl sees me as the high value male and she told me i keep giving her so many emotions going up and down

She is currently the only girl im seeing, I've have slept with 16 women and by casual, they only lasted about 3 weeks max.

This girl has lied to me about her past because she wanted me to not just see her as a sex object and wanted to be with me. I have set boundaries with her before about lying and i have left. We are currently not dating right now but i said to her ' how will you make it up to me' by giving her things to do which she has done!

So this is why i came here for advice. She has only slept with 6 people as well, her slut behaviour were all online.

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2y ago  The Hub

@Amazonforest You don't owe this girl (or any girl) a relationship simply because she hasn't done anything wrong or given you any reason not to. Surely, your bar is a little higher than "Hasn't done anything wrong to give me a reason yet."

How many other women are you currently having sex with? Because if that number was greater than zero, I doubt you'd be asking this question.

And how many women have you had sex with during your life? Have you had casual relationships before? Spun multiple plates at once before? It's really concerning that you have such poor boundaries. You sound very uncomfortable telling a girl no, walking away, or maintaining a casual relationship as casual, and you think you need to have some kind of reason or justification for doing any of that. This points toward a low sense of self-worth, a lack of experience, and poor boundaries.

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2y ago  The Hub

Damage girl wants a LTR, confused what to do.

I have been seeing this girl for over 8 months now and everything has been going good. This girl wants a relationship from me but im not sure how to handle these red flags.

She has lied to me about her past and after lots of discussion she finally opened up about it The red flags:

Attention seeking and need for validation, would send nudes to lot of guys.

For a few months she sold nudes when she was 16

She was raped when she was 15

Likes rough sex bdsm

She was basically an online slut. Here's the thing though, this is her past and whilst me and her were together she has given me ZERO red flags. We are not even LTR and she has been loyal to me. She has not sexted or sent nudes to other guys. This girl told me she is obsessed with me and loves me and treats me well.

She has given me her phone password, she deleted her dating app and blcoked guys she spoke to (i never asked for this) She tells me she is all about me and really wants a relationship and for us to work.

I'm really not sure how to handle this. Her past bothers me a little but I know that she has given me 0 reasons to leave her whilst with me.

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