@arakouzo I think Trump is keeping his hands clean on the details because there's plenty of real evidence but there's some bad Intel out there too. Let the lawyers fight it out and stay general.
@RealJoeDee Strategically, it seems like a speech intended to prime the people before a court thing, so nobody gets too surprised and feels like the next step in court just appeared out of the blue (since the media is barely covering it).
Content-wise, it's more of the same we've been hearing. Trump saying it's fraud and unbelievable and promising he has evidence, but no smoking gun proof, just Trump saying so. And the media outlets responding that Trump is simply lying out of his ass and has nothing, and this is dangerous because it's inciting his supporters and sad and dishonorable because he's standing in front of the flag and the white house trappings spouting all of these blatant unamerican lies.
Presentation-wise, it could have been a 15 minute speech instead of 45 and much more powerful, but that's a pretty normal deficiency for politicians across the board. None of them have learned that less is more when you're speaking, getting to the point is powerful, and too much detail buries the point and makes you sound like you're rambling and untrustworthy.
Read More@Rollo-Tomassi Love the art. I've totally been to her apartment. You can copy and paste that apartment for every woman age 25-35 that's single.
I don't know how or why every single woman who lives in squalor like that somehow owns martini glasses, but without fail, when you go to make drinks, there are always martini glasses. And every time she bitches about how her last boyfriend always made her dinner, you can point out the pile of crusty dishes in the sink and tell her you'll cook if she helps you wash them. She never does, so you never have to cook. Two drinks later (for her, while you just nurse one drink because her liquor always sucks) and after some fun, you're back at your clean place taking a shower and eating leftovers.
@tb87670 I think the most likely outcome is the Supreme Court just not hearing the case for procedural legal reasons. Possibly with Trump knowing that's about to happen and benevolently dropping his case and finally conceding first for appearances.
I like Barrett. Whatever happens with Trump, the Barrett situation was really hilarious for me.
So a lot of my friends are left-wingers. They were extremely pissed about Trump nominating Barrett and pushing her confirmation through. I thought it was a little funny at the time. I get that she's Catholic and conservative and Trump's an asshole that people on the left feel like they have to oppose, but in addition to being really, really qualified for the position, she's a poster child diversity candidate. She's a woman. A mother of 7. One of her kids has Downs, and two of them are adopted refugees from Hatii. Her family is like a UN convention of diversity. And Barrett is the first mother of school aged children to ever serve on the bench. Ever.
You would think that would be enough of a bone to throw to the other side to shut them up. Of course she's going to be ideologically conservative because a Republican president is appointing her, but look at her. She's a poster child of an empowered woman. Kids, successful career, diverse family - she's got it all. You'd think the dems would have at least liked that.
When Barrett was born in the early 70s, there had never been a female Supreme Court justice. And she ended up taking the place of not just the most renowned and accomplished female justice, but possibly the most renowned and accomplished justice there ever was. And serving on the Court with her are two other women as well. Look how far the nation has come!
She was sworn in by Clarence Thomas. When Thomas was born in the 40s, there had never been a black Supreme Court justice, and the very notion that there ever would be was laughable.
So here I was, watching a black Supreme Court justice swearing in a woman Supreme Court justice who has two adopted black kids and one kid with a disability, and my leftist friends, with a complete straight face, dead serious, were telling me that her confirmation proves how racist and sexist America is.
Read More@tb87670 Are there decent odds of a 5-4 Supreme Court decision doing that before January?
@tb87670 The right and wrong in this issue are pretty clear.
I'm just curious about the legal rule.
If a state has already certified (even in the face of election irregularities), is the Supreme Court able to just decline to hear Trump's case because it's already moot? Or does the Supreme Court actually have the power to require individual states to un-certify, or to use different electors, or to award the presidency, or something like that?
@Fawk_Face The victim frame is deceptively the dominant one.
"Why are you being so mean to me? Why are you arguing with me? Waaaaaah!" is actually the woman being the socially dominant one and setting the frame. The guy was trying to have a discussion about a thing, but she reframed the discussion from the thing to him personally justifying himself to her.
Social dominance is subtle, because it sometimes comes from the less aggressive, less physically dominant person. Lots of confident tough guys with poor social dominance end up wrapped around the fingers of manipulative, socially dominant women.
@aceflies Frame is an internet autistic person's way of talking about social dominance.
When two people interact, the more dominant person sets the "frame" for that interaction. The less dominant person operates within the "frame" set by the more dominant person.
It's not really a conscious thing. Generally, if you are confident, self-assured, and less invested in the other person and in the interaction than the other person is in you, you can just say or do what you feel like without making as many considerations for the other person, while the other person (should (s)he wish to continue the interaction) needs to make whatever considerations are necessary to keep things going. So the other person is operating within the frame you have created.
If you are over-invested and trying to win the other person over, you will find yourself making considerations for the other person and appearing very non-confident, tending to operate in the other person's frame.
The whole idea is an attempt to reduce something normal, fluid, and natural to a bunch of autistic rules and terminology.
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