@AbusiveFather1

being non-judgemental

those of you that are (or pretend) to be chill and non-judgemental, what are some stories your girls have told you (their past or current escapades)?

being non-judgemental is something that i'm working on, because shaming slutty behavior is just counter-productive (should just silently vet girls instead)

Next time she leaves her purse with you to pop off to the bathroom, after she disappears from sight take out her wallet, and photograph her drivers license with your smartphone. Later, when you take her home, politely ask if you can use the toilet. While in the bathroom take photographs of the labels of any medication bottles you find so you can do an online search on what the meds are for later. Depending on what you learn about her medications, you might not even need to bother with running a proper background check to vet her.

@Redpillpusher

In addition to accountability, reason is also a tool of the patriarchy

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

@Ronaldraygun77

Challenging situation. Need advice.

A couple years ago, I was zeroed out. Hard. Would like to think we’ve all been there at one point or another. Still in the process of taking accountability and rebuilding my life.

During this time, I moved in with my main LTR fully knowing what would likely happen. It was either that or homelessness. I’ve improved my station in life massively, and this chick still adds value to my life, has great qualities, but due to a pattern of events I’ll never be able to trust her again, let alone consider her true LTR material. This chick has confessed some awful stuff (be non judgmental and get her comfortable, and see for yourself). The sex is great, but I know im likely not her top option, she’s in her early 30s and is looking for a safe place to land. Have expressed I’m never getting married, but girls always think you’ll change your mind later.

It’s August. People’s leases are ending. Have come to realize staying in this situation is bad for my mental health and frame. Been a while since I lived on my own, but I know I need it. This LTR however, still thinks I’ll be her eventual Beta Bucks and has started looking at new two bedroom places (PRO TIP: if you’re gonna move in with a girl, having separate bedrooms will help a LOT) Not signing a lease with her. Also have a small business with her, which complicates things.

Almost have enough saved for a car, which takes priority over my own place, but will mostly drain my finances.

Here are my options. Remember not to moralize:

1: move in with her, find a way to not sign the lease. Or sign the lease and eat the cost of breaking it. Move into my new place when it’s ready, get my stuff out while she’s at work. Could potentially break the news a few days early, but this could be disastrous. She can afford the place by herself, no need for replacement roommate.

OPTION 2: rent a storage unit, and stay with my other LTR. This one and I get along better, and shes higher quality. Also offered to loan me $1000 to help get me out of the situation, which I’m thinking of accepting. There could be an angle, but genuinely doesn’t seem like there’s strings attached.

Option 3: Bite the bullet, get the car, and my own place all at once. The place I rent will have to be far from ideal and it puts me in a dangerous situation financially. No safety net, but potential opportunity to better myself through the discipline and struggle. Leave the 1st LTR with no closure, an ambiguous “nothing has to change” and slowly detach from her. Maybe keep fucking her, maybe not.

Option 2 strikes me as the most rational with the highest Pro to Con ratio. Interested in hearing what you guys have to say, and any similar stories and lessons. Thanks a lot, TRP saved my life.

Option 2, it is then. Study the book and good luck to you regardless of whatever choice you ultimately make.

@SSBPikkon

Met a girl, but I don't know where to go with this

I knew a girl from a while back that's younger than me and 3 times more inexperienced.

Judging by her actions she seemed like a virgin and her family is really christian-oriented, they're big believers.

She blocked me a year ago, because her parents found about me, her brother saw that she was texting me and she got in big trouble because of that. They're very religious and take things like that seriously. What's crazy is we never went on a date, I never took her seriously because of that and because her parents are strict and she didn't go out as much as she could - which was somewhat true ngl, she did bullshit a little, but I never saw her anywhere and her parents are hella strict.

I had 0 contact with her after she blocked me, then she found me again (a year has passed by this point) with her new profiles on socials. We met only once (1st time actually), we were out for 30 mins because she couldn't stay longer, she blocked me again after 2-3 weeks - same reason, someone found her texting me.

She found me again a month later, we went out on 3-4 dates, but we never went past making out, I knew something was fishy.

She felt really nervous but was okay with me touching her although we never went past making out once - even during the makeout she was really new to it, I could tell she doesn't know what to do, or should I say, how to kiss properly.

She talked about 2 guys she was with, it turns out that she had sex with 1 of her exes, which completely turned me off. Apparently that ex is her brother's friend so he was allowed to be in their house and to chill with them - he had more time with her, to calm her down, lower her defenses and at this point if you can go to her house you can fuck her easily.

I stopped caring about her honestly, but I still want to get a body, I made her to chase me, I was unavailable since I didn't want to and I didn't have the time - she could only go out for like an hour and a half and in the worst time for me - because I needed to rush to work and do other important things.

She still chases me more than I chase her, which is normal, she openly talks about lots of things - why did she tell me about her having sex? She could've let me smash, in the middle of it, I see that she's not a virgin and just move on, it's better that way than outright telling me, lowering chances of me sleeping with her - she voluntarily said that and became a hoe in my eyes.

What to do now? I thought she was nervous and all that because she was a virgin. Now that I know she isn't, it's really confusing to me.

She doesn't want to do things as I did with other girls (1st date or 2nd those girls were jumping on me and really were lusting over me but she doesn't), she doesn't put a lot of resistance as others did, but it doesn't go anywhere, it's like some sort of limbo, it's not as good or as bad as it can be. Maybe those girls I was with were much more experienced and that's why it went faster with them.

Do I still go out with her and try to get a body? It's really tiresome tbh, she doesn't fit my schedule, isn't interesting and isn't easy to do something sexual other than making out, which is bad to do with her.

She does send me some freaky, sluttish things on tt, reels, even some half-naked pictures - honestly I know I'm not the only one seeing those pictures, but is hella shy in person.

This post is too long, I can clarify some things if you need for the context.

Don't. If you haven't already, study the book suggested to you a few months back. I'd also seriously recommend you read The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar.

Females that give off mixed signals usually aren't altogether right in the head and it's best to leave them be unless you want to have a dramatically interesting life. Engage females that give clear signals, avoid the rest. The best thing you can do with this girl is friend-zone her, the worse thing you could otherwise do is ghost her.

@redpepper25

Question about this girl

I know “oneitis” and “AWALT”, but still want to ask the question-

Had a first date with this girl the other night and it went really well. Brought her back to my place and got some last minute resistance - she said she didn’t want to have sex because saw this going somewhere long term and wanted to take things slow. We did pretty much everything else.

She kept telling me she was looking for something serious and seemed like she was hesitant because she thought I was just looking to hookup.

Next day I reach out and she seems way colder over text and doesnt offer an alternative when I propose a time for a second date.

Not sure what to do now? I guess soft next?

Why do girls do this shit? I know AWALT, but this girl has no social media, doesnt go out much, and just overall seemed like a good girl. I guess this is just proof that all of them really are like that

I'd say soft next them to help spare your ego, but do you really believe some girl you've only known for a few hours would actually notice, let alone miss you, if you disappeared? You've probably got no sort of life outside of chasing skirt, going to school, or work, and the frustration you're expressing tells me many females can sense that about you too. You need to deal with that now, because sane folks know fixating on any single thing, or person, just isn't healthy.

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

While you're doing that, make the time to check out and find a few hobbies to pursue. Try to settle on something that occupies and stimulates your mind outside of school, your job, and working out. While female companionship is definitely something a guy should value in life, the man you're otherwise striving to be is the goal, and I don't think that's something you've realized yet.

@Machiaspinner

Is this plate broken?

Hello everyone, I hope you’re all doing great. I have a question: did I mess things up with this plate, or should I just consider it broken?

I’ve been seeing this girl, 23 years old, for about five months. She’s a real virgin, shy, feminine, and assertive. For those five months, I basically put her on a pedestal. My morality kept telling me not to escalate, thinking that since she’s a virgin, it wouldn’t lead anywhere and would be a waste of time, even though I know that AWALT.

Despite the clear high interest she was showing me, I kept it cool and made no move. Recently, I finally decided to escalate with kino and kisses, and she was receptive. But after the second time, she said she wanted to talk.

She told me she wasn’t expecting things to go that far, especially since we had known each other for five months and I hadn’t made a move until now. She also mentioned that I come off as a bit arrogant and hard to deal with, probably because I’ve been maintaining my frame and giving her only occasional validation. She added that she just wants to enjoy her time, because i mentionned in the past that I wasn’t looking for anything serious at the moment, which in hindsight I probably shouldn’t have said.

Honestly, she’s right. Waiting that long to escalate was a weak move on my part. I tried to cover it by saying “good things take time,” and she just laughed and accepted it . But deep down, I feel like I triggered her anti-slut defense, and now I’m wondering if it’s best to walk away from this and accept that the plate is broken.

Morality wasn't the problem. You simply lacked the confidence needed to escalate. That you lacked this confidence for five months is a bit alarming.

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.