2y ago  The Hub

@thesun how so , shouldn’t I make myself logical arguments to not do something that’ll eventually use up my time but then again you might be right. The more importance I give to this thought , the bigger it becomes and rather than just reading the pua for fun and be done with it , it’s making me post shit like this on the Internet. Phew! It’s sick

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2y ago  The Hub

@Initial-Glove I don’t even know if there’s a difference between game and pua although I kind of feel where you are indicating since I just saved a rollos video on difference between the two. All this time I’ve been taking these two terms as synonyms since the name of the Neil Strauss book is the game and it is referred to the text of pua’s

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2y ago  The Hub

For all l you psych nerds out here

Been through some self inflicted bad times but I finally found my problem.

I’ve been reading mark Manson and some stoicism to make better sense of my life and my main reason to dig into those two was because I was relying too much on pleasure, instant gratification. and jt was making my life miserable.

My life changed when I was introduced to the concept of values (mind you I’m young and this was the first time i discovered this concept )

Mark Manson says which I agree with, that bad emotions result due to bad values. Eg I had many bad values but one characteristic common to all those was these values were out of my control. And acc to mark this was a bad value to pursue .

Then I got introduced to the dichotomy of control in stoicism. I was so happy to have reaffirmed my newly instilled beliefs.

I felt confident, wasn’t relaying on instant dopamine. Rollos the ratio male also seemed to contribute and strengthen such belief. The reason I use the world "seemed “ here is because I have a vivid memory of having an epiphany after reading half of the book after that I quit the book cause of daily humdrum and not being able to keep up my reading habit ( this should’ve been my clue to slipping back to thr pleasure cycle ) But I am dedicated to read that book again form today.

Back on the topic, all was going good until I discovered something called PUA.

Honestly , I know nothing about it apart from its definition and the reason that is all I know is because I haven’t been able to find time to read the game which is supposedly the gateway to pua?

But here comes the part where I now have the knowledge (based on the mere defn of pua ) that something out there exists (literature , tricks etc ) which when practiced will land me into the world of pleasure atleast in the aspect of women.

The old acquired good values (under my control ) were now thrown out the window (subconsciously) because , because apparently the value (f*king chicks ) that I considered "bad" ( in terms of being out of my control ) , are now theoretically "in my control " and hence "good values " (acc to mark Manson and stoicism; my only two gurus ) and on top of that chasing this value provides me pleasure.

Now my lizard brain won’t just look at it rationally. I’m in college rn and I’ve been making these rational arguments against myself that I shouldn’t learn pua cause it’ll be a waste of my precious time that isn’t gonna come back but it’s called lizard brain for a reason.

This is the dilemma

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2y ago  The Hub

@neo_ I am currently lifting pretty consistently, as for reading , again there’s so much going on in my mind rn but that’s cause I’m aiming to gain sth which makes me picky for books and I’m aware that its a bad way to read something. I can’t make money cause I’m in med school rn. That leaves me with a lot of overthinking time I guess lol

2y ago  The Hub

A bit of vent with a question

How do you use trp posts?

I’ve recently quit trp on Reddit since it had endless high quality attractive posts which were but it all left me feeling that there’s so much to know and I couldn’t read it all let alone implement it.

It was like I wasn’t using it , it was using me. Whatever I tried to do in the day , my focus diverted to remind myself what great post I might be reading right now rather than going about my own day to day work How do you approach trp posts so that you don’t fall in this dopamine cycle.

I am aware I’m exuding the typical beta scarcity mindset because the mere thought of reading more shows that I might lack something and I am trying to make up for it but believe me I’m not some incel lol. I’ve got couple plates spinning rn , I’m not trying to boast here but what I’m trying hard to understand is I don’t really need to read a lot of that stuff as of rn bit still I’m tempted to.

Do any of you read those posts just for fun because that’s how I started and it was a downward spiral from there

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2y ago  The Hub

@Antelope it isn’t about shame. I tried re reading but I didn’t get that high again , maybe that was just the dopamine of new info and now the info is not new to me , the work supposed to be done is on changing the behaviour

2y ago  TheRedPill

@Zavss is this the only book you be read on stoicism. If I’m new to the philosophy will this book not be too heavy to understand. Heavy intellectually

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2y ago  The Hub

Thoughts on re reading a book.

Does it affect the sam as it did when you read it first .

I remember the first time I read the rational male (half of it ) I was a different man for some time. It was like a huge slap of new beliefs on my face.

But recently

I’ve caught myself slipping once again for a chick in terms of mindset. I’m definitely exuding some beta behaviour of focusing too much on her. Although I’m not acting out like talking to her all the time. I still seem to have my frame ,but psychologically it’s taxing to see my focus wavering. I don’t even know why is it so.

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2y ago  TheRedPill

@Anonburner2929292929 interesting to see a mark Manson readers. His work is good ain’t it

2y ago  TheRedPill

@Godblessusall

If you were to chose any 2 books of the red pill. What’s your pick

The Douay-Rheims Version of The Holy Bible and The Evolutionary Psychology Behind Politics.

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