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superhitops
2w ago  TheRedPill

Do not make an LTR out of a Plate.

Old Redpill preaches that plating is a stage for an LTR. While.it has some success, I disagree with it. Besides, this is a recurring theme here: "should I LTR my plate?" Lets learn from woman: they rarely LTR an orbiter. So, you should not LTR a plate.

An orbiter gives, commitment free, the validation that woman needs. Plates gives, commitment free, the sex that man need. They are, then, analog.

Then I ask: have you ever asked why woman never - or almost never - give an LTR chance to an orbiter? Go ask any woman about that and they will share lots of horror stories about when they (or their friends) did.

Yes, this is over simplified.

Free sex, no strings atached makes man to become lazy. Some of us decide to "settle" for the plate that has been around for some good time already. "We have intimacy". "She is good company". We started to see qualities that we hadn't seen before.

No. It was not lazyness. Most likely, we were worn off, beaten by plate in a marathon, due to woman's long term thinking. Woman do that on several different aspects (ask any divorced guy). This included. The clue? Plate demands that used to fall on deaf ears are now important and being taken into consideration. This is the Relationship type of plate. IMO, the most dangerous one. The probblem is, given enough time, all plates becomes this. Even 304s have the "Time for settling down". And then they break.

Ow, she is resilient, you say. Unbreakable plate for good and bad times. You think: "this is one worth keeping; she must adore me to take that level of shit".

No. Quite the oposite.

Warn made. Now some more theory.

Have you ever noted that plates rarely do the job for securing an LTR other than offering sex? Hot or ugly. Smart or dumb. Rich or poor. It's sex and no work. Ow, and demands. Plates demand (while oddly ok with not being attended).

Plates accept that condition for whatever gain they saw in that relationship. It could be fun. It could be a trophy. It could be some band-aiding from a break-up. Whatever else the hamster thought.

It can be anything, but it is never sex. No, I repeat, it is not sex. Sex is not in short supply for women of all kinds. This is very fundamental concept. Point is, she found something she takes from this informal relationship. Whatever it is, doesn't matter, you are fucking and she is getting it, whatever it is, and that is a good done deal.

One day, things change. The arrangement is done for. Plate will start pushing for an LTR before breaking. The "what are we" talk. But... lets rewind this "relationship".

No functional decent human would take too much shit without quitting. But the plate has been there and now has the goal of a relationship. Yet, they never did any effort for securing one, other than offering sex and taking bullshit.

If you haven't given in yet, she will be in a state of questioning herslef. Hamster defense kicks in, you are a jerk. Your fault.

Or she can't find anything better, because (add any hamster guilt transfer here). Your fault.

Add anything bad with poor hamster reasoning here. It will be your fault. You are at fault. No matter what. And here lies the danger.

She is still there taking shit. There isn't any good why. It actually doesn't matter why. Hamster. Not your problem, as long as you don't LTR the plate, it will eventually break. And if they don't break, that is NOT a quality. This resilience is bad. The longer to break, the worse.

Let me summarize what is the conditions of this 'great resilient woman' of yours:

  1. A non-functional individual (low self,steem, playing the narcisism game, etc)
  2. Zero training on doing the relationship effort
  3. Can only offer (cheap) sex
  4. Resented
  5. Demanding

So, conclusions...

Either you plate them until they break or you break them the very moment the LTR ideas come to your mind. "Long term plates" are a bad thing and are already plotting for an LTR. Somehow. From babytrap to financial entanglement. Because the plate can wear you out until you get lazy, tired, compassion, whatever, specially if you the biggest steak on their menu, you need to eventually act.

There is no possible happy ending. Plating woman has its drawbacks: if you come to develop feelings, I'm sorry. You are screwd. Own it and move on. Next. Or... Suffer. Until the divorce.

Sometimes, against better judgement, a guy will LTR his plate. He starts with a resented, uninvested woman that blames him for everything with a history of never working to secure this relationship that blames you for every thing. The cherry on top is that she took so much shit that the low self steem that allowed that is reflected back at you. She thinks that you must be worthless to be with a POS like her.

Not to mention that she traded sex for relationship and you will feel resented when sex gets of the menu. Resented committed woman don't fuck without a reason.

Can it work? Well.. It requires extraordinary patience, talent, time and energy to make an LTR out of a plate successfully. Nexting and fixing feelings is far more easier.

That all said...

If one wants to settle, found unicorn, LTR potential, whatever, don't plate them. Of course, you don't go with goals of a relationship, this is womans job. It is a very difficult spot of being open to the idea of a relationship and no more than that. Then, let the woman do the job. And believe me, if she really wants it, she will do the job. Based on how it is going, then you decide for which route. Plating or LTRing.

But to do never plate woman you are OPEN to anything serious. If you started the plate route, forever plate it is, relationship route is over. There is a small window in the begining that you must choose. Not deciding it auto-plating.

The universe would never allow a situation without a trade off. Plating has consequences.

Of course, all situations are unique, hence, why this is not a rule, more of a "best practice".

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