@Typo-MAGAshiv @Lone_Ranger Regarding bars and clubs: When I turned 21 I was all excited. I thought it would be like the old beer commercials but I found it depressing. My father's generation back in the 1960's went to bars a lot but I just didn't have anything in common with them. That being said, I found that book clubs sort of "broke off" into social groups who would hang out afterwars at the venue (usually a cafe) and then buy drinks and shoot the shit doing stuff that a classical bar scene would look like. And perhaps that's the key: People who go to bars, at random, are largely drifters while you form relationships with people through a shared activity. One of the guys at the book club said his wife tried to start a women's book club, but they quickly got drunk and didn't talk anything about books.

@Lone_Ranger @Gointthedistance It's a fun topic you brought up. I'll add this: I think the fundamental flaw with conservatism has been putting us into a Hunger Games competition and it played into the feminists/trad-fems hands: Richard Cooper says "just become alpha" but even if ALL of us spent all day improving, 90% of us can't be alpha by definition. Men today work 2X as hard as my father did for women who are half as good or "ho'flation". You know what my father did to pass my mom's shit test at a dance in 1958? She told me she gave him her name but NOT her phone number. He had to look it up in the white pages! Yeah, she sure made him EARN it! So we have allowed the system to continually move the goal posts for us to justify being treated like a human being.

I'll add part of the problem is how chivalry has brainwashed men including in comic books. I love the line in KickAss2 where the villain says healthy people don't dream of being superheroes, they dream of being rich and getting laid. Imagine how much better the world would have been if Peter Parker used his spider powers to make awesome consumer products and became a billionaire and had a bevy of professional tail in his harem?

Another aspect of my self-improvement often overlooked is MARKETING. You can do 10X better at work, but you'll be beaten by the kissarse who does only 1/2 of the work he's supposed to do. Game is more than just getting laid but an overall outlook at life to win.

All that said, I find it fulfilling to do good things for a community that has shown they care about me. My wife and i regularly volunteer at the local Ukrainian Orthodox church and they have been kind and appreciative to us.

@Goingthedistance

Yes, isn't that what good looking guys that are also social calibrated do?

Sometimes. It's not as much as the blackpillers think. (I've seen you use "___-maxx" terms, which is a blackpill thing. Try to avoid reading their garbage. It'll only bring you down (or make you laugh when you get to the point that you know it's garbage).)

I think for me at least, it's not the capability of sleeping with a girl the same day I meet her, as much as being able to do so.

It's not this thing, but this same exact thing said with different words?

visited some Pro's to get better at smashing.

That won't make you better, unless you stumble across one who acts as sort of a sex teacher.

Besides, building attraction and doing enough good foreplay are both far more important than the mechanics of smashing. You get a woman cranked up enough, she'll orgasm as you enter her. Ask me how I know.

status and being a desirable man? Or because I'm a prime candidate for a beta bux?

Lead with arousal qualities and not with your wallet. If anything, hide and downplay your money.

@Lone_Ranger I appreciate the comment, truly. But I have some questions.

also point to a sort of ambition to be a chad that can smash chicks within 2 hours of meeting them.

Yes, isn't that what good looking guys that are also social calibrated do?

I'd ditch that as an ambition. Because its not going to make you happy.

This sounds like saying "it's lonely at the top", but what if you're already lonely at the bottom? I think for me at least, it's not the capability of sleeping with a girl the same day I meet her, as much as being able to do so. Instead of being some loser that visited some Pro's to get better at smashing.

Just keep living and improving yourself, you're going in the right direction. The chicks will come.

While I really appreciate this, I don't have that much optimism. I'm already 28 and while I do look like I'm 21 and I'm certainly fit and getting fitter each day, I feel (a woman thing I know) that I've missed a lot of stuff and that I'm at a massive disadvantage to most guys that started getting laid at 15 and kept getting laid.

The chicks will come.

And yes, they will come, but they'll come because I've finally ascended to chad status and being a desirable man? Or because I'm a prime candidate for a beta bux?