I'm going to challenge you to go a bit further. When you say Traditional values what does that look like to you?

I am asking simply for clarity. You leave something vague or undefined and you won't manage to find it.

So what things do you want in a girl? You're going to need to separate the values from the label.

Let's say a woman has great maternal instincts and is great with kids. It doesn't matter if she's conservative or not. This goes with all the other qualities you're looking for in a woman as well. Don't get caught up in labels.

Now part of this has to be actually grounded in current day psychology and dating Dynamics. Times change. You're not going to find pure virginal women around. They are going to be sexually experienced and have options. This is what happened with internet dating. You may not like it, but you have to accept it.

I would say worry less about whether a woman has traditional values or not and worrying more about her values as a whole. And do they align with your life trajectory? If they do, I would say that that is a very good match. Doesn't matter what you want to call it. Compatibility is simply compatibility.

Churches are broad. If you are thinking of going to church to meet a traditional woman you have worse odds than looking inside a cookery shop or a fabric shop. In those cases at least you are meeting women who value one traditional female skill.

I live with a very devout woman. You could call her traditional and it would be fair. I did not meet her in a church. I dialled a priest's number about something unrelated and his secretary answered. This lady is very devout and therefore I am a huge disappointment to her in my lack of devotion. Do not "go to church" to meet a woman unless you are hoping to meet a traditional woman who is only there to meet a traditional man. Most women except the born again sluts are at church for other purposes. Churches are social places for most. If a traditional woman is in a church it is almost certainly because that is her social scene or a religious calling.

This means that unless you want to dress up every Sunday and make the kids get out of bed and dress up and drive them all to church in your clean car when you could be out hunting in a dirty truck, unless you want to be organising the church functions, deep cleaning the church, having the vicar to tea and praying morning, meal times and bed time, don't go to church to meet a traditional woman. You may or may not get a traditional woman but if you avoid the born again sluts (of whom may lady has met many at church) you will get a devout woman or a woman whose social scene is church and heaven help you then if you are not devout or don't love pretending to be into god botherers. I go hunting or I go running these days on Sunday mornings. The fact that this is a disappointment to her is a disappointment to me too. A big disappointment

Look for social circles and look for good families. Yes you are taking a social risk approaching a woman in such settings -rejection is embarrassing- but then you wait to see if she is into you before you ask her out. Yes that was traditionally the way. Check out the family as you check out the girl, make a move if both check out and she is also clearly inviting it. If a man is a good traditionally minded guy, likely his sister or daughter is good. That woman will know other good women. Look for people who are into traditional ways of life and see what it brings.

I have never dated a woman I considered both intelligent and educated. I would genuinely love to have had such a woman but instead I have spent years trying hard not to make women feel dumb and uneducated. I have purposely reduced my vocabulary and avoided high brow topics for every woman I have ever lain with.

There was one to whom I never once explained that you cannot use whom as the subject of a sentence. She did it when she wanted to sound smart or formal and I bit my tongue every time. The present incumbent likes to say "oh unto you!" when she is angry and wants to sound all righteous -meaning to say "woe unto you" (she has heard preachers saying it, so it must be righteous ...right?). I have never yet set her straight, even when she is in full childish rage pointing her finger at me and ranting it.

It happens that I have worked with lots of men who do not have very large vocabularies or use good grammar but they are good men. Many of them are also better boyfriends and husbands than I.

Still, she might have a point. Probably there are more women who have studied English literature at degree level and there are more men than women who read the Daily Star over the Guardian. High culture when libtard, so high culture became irrelevant to real life and men dumped it.

I think we should have an uneducated girlfriend test too. Can she do some absolute minimum things to be called a functional adult and a useful female? Things like; cook the things she likes to eat from scratch ingredients, change a car wheel, open the hood of a car for that matter, wire a plug, work out which fuse has blown in a fuse cabinet (yeah, just by opening it and looking), light a fire easily without firelighters, clean and joint a dead animal, mend clothing with a needle and thread, grow vegetables from seed, care for small children without constantly complaining about it. Genuinely gentlemen what percentage of your wives and girlfriends, past and present can tick all those off? Modern women are nearly all practically illiterate Yeah I know "practically illiterate" is not a logical term and probably belongs in the big talking pseudointellectual twaddle of a sociology paper but its politer than saying helpless, childish and of minimal use to anyone including themselves.