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@MentORPHEUS

By the same token, he's not wrong from a global perspective

He bloody well was wrong! I shat up this site for the better part of a month inundating this feed with counter-factuals to his islamist make believe reality, down to the granular detail that HIS culture was the victim of Arab conquest and suppression which was the very thing he was promoting as the answer to all of his ills. It was beyond irony! I showed him examples of horrific acts from Arab nations on peaceful people - he was blind to it to the point his racism and vitriol got the best of him when it came to site decorum.

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6h ago  The Hub

@Vermillion-Rx

I'm not sure how much more vitriolic you can be than saying white people are evil and locusts

You're not wrong from a "Protecting and maintaining the site" perspective.

By the same token, he's not wrong from a global perspective, about how badly "The West" or "White people" for short, have gone against the principles "we" hold up as a major component and driver of, "our" supposed superiority and material successes.

The US is speedrunning its fall from the peak of global hegemony. Sacrificing Lionsmane8 on the altar of... any of our supposed values, won't change much less repair this. It might work to distract us from our obligations to addressing it meaningfully however.

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6h ago  The Hub
Trillionaire Admin

@TheRedPike

That was before the confusion, cancel the merch order or donate it to a clothing drive if it's too late

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6h ago  The Hub

@Vermillion-Rx Hold on, I thought we were all required to wear outrYe merch shirt. No?

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6h ago  The Hub

@MentORPHEUS Being white is entirely irrelevant to anything that followed your first sentence. European expansion didn't happen because they were white, it happened because in a pragmatic and utilitarian universe where resources and security are paramount, Europeans had the initiative to utilise their environment to their advantage.

Have horrific acts taken place throughout the history of the world? Absolutely. Did any of it originate in someones mind from the void of potentiality because of their skin colour? Of fucking course not. Have some people leveraged and even promoted their position because of their skin colour? Yes. Is that a disprovable ideology? Also yes. So disprove it on those grounds - but don't castigate European success on those grounds - which is what his dogma was insisting on.

White people don't have a monopoly on horror. They aren't even the front runners in that category.

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6h ago  The Hub

@MentORPHEUS It survives because the "opposite" culture is observably worse. A viable counter culture is the only remedy, but they rarely arise absent massive societal upheaval. Now, Elon seems to think he might be it.......but..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Anyway....

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6h ago  The Hub
Trillionaire Admin

@MentORPHEUS

Conversely, take any of his posts and replace his words with "brown people" or "black people" and tell me how long you think i should keep up the content on here visible to all

I'm not saying change the message, i mean keep ver batim what he said just swap out races. How long in time should it have been kept up with race swapping? Or do you think it shouldn't have been taken down at all if the races were swapped?

I'm not sure how much more vitriolic you can be than saying white people are evil and locusts short of advocating for violence

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6h ago  The Hub
Scarf-wearing fruitbat

Agree and amplify isn't just for shit test. I've had great success using it for comfort test too.

My girl has a tendency to over react when things aren't quit going her way. I don't mean if I tell her no, I mean if she doesn't hit one note in her performance, forgets something for a trip or especially the meals she preps. Last nights she's "flipping out" over dinner before it's even finished.

The potatoes are trash they keep stick to the pan. Fuck. And the steak looks over cooked. Damnit Whittney. I know and the brocoli looks goofy. She continues on her rant while plating everything and as she hands it to me, I look at the plate, then in her eyes;

You're fucking right. This looks awful, should we just throw it out and order pizza?

My delivery is 100% serious but she knows I'm being sarcastic because she's lactose intolerant.

Almost instantly she goes on the defensive, Rude! You haven't even tried it. I told her neither have you. I didn't have to say the rest, she new i was referring to the rant I just listened to for the past ten minutes about how awful everything turned out, before she could even attempt to try the meal.

Dinner was fine. She even admitted besides the 10% of potatoes we lost to the pan, they turned out well. Steaks wasn't even close to over cooked. She ended up apologizing for being dramatic after the meal was concluded.

I just get so upset because I know I can do better.

I've found throughout the years, when your girl is being ridiculous, pretending to be absurdly ridiculous about the same issue, tends to put things into perspective pretty quick for them.

It can also put them on the defensive because, Hey, only I can critique the fuck out of myself. Either way the over abundance of my faux despair tends to cause enough of a jarring effect to break them out of their unnecessary tatrum.

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6h ago  The Hub
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@MentORPHEUS

He didn't phrase any of it from an empathetic perspective, he went on vitriolic tirades

I've had to keep removing some rather grotesque content from his page, most of which no one saw because I was fast. Most of it stuff no one wants to see logging in for their first time, much less their day at all.

I think he was at 10+ site content violations, not tribe, site. When is enough enough in your eyes. There were no shortage of candid warnings from me

I pointed out the offending posts and was met with reposting of the exact content I removed.

The user failed to participate in a manner consistent with content policy

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7h ago  The Hub

@Vermillion-Rx I'm as white as white comes, which is relevant to what follows.

The user in question apparently lives in the general region, thus naturally would by default feel greater kinship to and empathy for the people of the nations there. For the past few years, "white people" namely US and to a lesser extent UK associated, have ramped up colonialist abuses of powerless peoples in that region, coming to a head with the US armed and backed, unilateral surprise attack upon Iran. The pretext for this was Iran's supposed imminent development of nuclear weapons. Western mainstream news and official policy positions, have completely and in grave injustice, have ignored that Iran was open and cooperative about inspections, even after Trump unilaterally withdrew from the JCPOA. Iran was still complying with that in good faith, only to get royally fucked over and backstabbed, by Mossad compromising the IAEA and using that supposedly nonpartisan agency to harvest targeting information to assassinate Iranian scientists in their homes, along with dozens to hundreds of their innocent neighbors many of them children.

In the face of this fuckery and the righteous indignation of the user, I saw people here taunting him with the coping-strategies of supposed "Western superiority". A community founded on the philosophy of seeing through simulations and simulacra, weaponizing same against a longtime member of the same community. A community that treats censorship in the name of "Identity Politics" as antithetical to and polar opposite of our very self-image and a practice of our cultural enemies, invoking it as justification of censoring/banning said member.

It's been building for a long time, the "right wing" culture of low metacognitive Dunning-Kruger expression of self-righteousness. Donald Trump marks the apotheosis of this culture. Not feeling personally bought-in to this zeitgeist, from my perspective, I see a need for serious self-reflection on the level of unaware adoption of the values and irrational belief in, an empire in the process of self-destruction at the end of its era.

Bottom line: I can see how, from a global perspective, that "White people" racial-superiored way too close to the sun lately, and that by objective standards, "everyone else" is not wrong for calling "white people" out on this. We "white people" would be better served looking in the mirror and at our core values vs recent behavior, than lashing out in weak ego-defensive behaviors that do nothing in the long term to even hold, much less improve, our ACTUAL place in the population of planet Earth.

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