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Vermillion-Rx

54m ago The Hub

Trillionaire Admin

@TheRedPike

You dropped this, King

TheRedPike

1h ago The Hub

@Vermillion-Rx I bought the local homeless shelter five cases of them.

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Vermillion-Rx

1h ago The Hub

Trillionaire Admin

@MentORPHEUS

Anyone one of us could have voiced our disagreement with each other in vitriolic ways yet only one of us did

He was warned and still opted for that instead of constructive and respectful dialogue.

Facts

And users will debate and mention perspectives regarding the long history of the human race over that. This what happens when you have people with diverse perspectives on a site with little agreement outside of the core site topic.

Decorum is a choice when in a debate that is not going to be finalized on a site with primary missions and people are discussing tertiary topics

MentORPHEUS

1h ago The Hub

@Vermillion-Rx

I'm not sure how much more vitriolic you can be than saying white people are evil and locusts

You're not wrong from a "Protecting and maintaining the site" perspective.

By the same token, he's not wrong from a global perspective, about how badly "The West" or "White people" for short, have gone against the principles "we" hold up as a major component and driver of, "our" supposed superiority and material successes.

The US is speedrunning its fall from the peak of global hegemony. Sacrificing Lionsmane8 on the altar of... any of our supposed values, won't change much less repair this. It might work to distract us from our obligations to addressing it meaningfully however.

Vermillion-Rx

1h ago The Hub

Trillionaire Admin

@TheRedPike

That was before the confusion, cancel the merch order or donate it to a clothing drive if it's too late

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TheRedPike

1h ago The Hub

@Vermillion-Rx Hold on, I thought we were all required to wear outrYe merch shirt. No?

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Vermillion-Rx

2h ago The Hub

Trillionaire Admin

@MentORPHEUS

Conversely, take any of his posts and replace his words with "brown people" or "black people" and tell me how long you think i should keep up the content on here visible to all

I'm not saying change the message, i mean keep ver batim what he said just swap out races. How long in time should it have been kept up with race swapping? Or do you think it shouldn't have been taken down at all if the races were swapped?

I'm not sure how much more vitriolic you can be than saying white people are evil and locusts short of advocating for violence

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Vermillion-Rx

2h ago The Hub

Trillionaire Admin

@MentORPHEUS

He didn't phrase any of it from an empathetic perspective, he went on vitriolic tirades

I've had to keep removing some rather grotesque content from his page, most of which no one saw because I was fast. Most of it stuff no one wants to see logging in for their first time, much less their day at all.

I think he was at 10+ site content violations, not tribe, site. When is enough enough in your eyes. There were no shortage of candid warnings from me

I pointed out the offending posts and was met with reposting of the exact content I removed.

The user failed to participate in a manner consistent with content policy

MentORPHEUS

2h ago The Hub

@Vermillion-Rx I'm as white as white comes, which is relevant to what follows.

The user in question apparently lives in the general region, thus naturally would by default feel greater kinship to and empathy for the people of the nations there. For the past few years, "white people" namely US and to a lesser extent UK associated, have ramped up colonialist abuses of powerless peoples in that region, coming to a head with the US armed and backed, unilateral surprise attack upon Iran. The pretext for this was Iran's supposed imminent development of nuclear weapons. Western mainstream news and official policy positions, have completely and in grave injustice, have ignored that Iran was open and cooperative about inspections, even after Trump unilaterally withdrew from the JCPOA. Iran was still complying with that in good faith, only to get royally fucked over and backstabbed, by Mossad compromising the IAEA and using that supposedly nonpartisan agency to harvest targeting information to assassinate Iranian scientists in their homes, along with dozens to hundreds of their innocent neighbors many of them children.

In the face of this fuckery and the righteous indignation of the user, I saw people here taunting him with the coping-strategies of supposed "Western superiority". A community founded on the philosophy of seeing through simulations and simulacra, weaponizing same against a longtime member of the same community. A community that treats censorship in the name of "Identity Politics" as antithetical to and polar opposite of our very self-image and a practice of our cultural enemies, invoking it as justification of censoring/banning said member.

It's been building for a long time, the "right wing" culture of low metacognitive Dunning-Kruger expression of self-righteousness. Donald Trump marks the apotheosis of this culture. Not feeling personally bought-in to this zeitgeist, from my perspective, I see a need for serious self-reflection on the level of unaware adoption of the values and irrational belief in, an empire in the process of self-destruction at the end of its era.

Bottom line: I can see how, from a global perspective, that "White people" racial-superiored way too close to the sun lately, and that by objective standards, "everyone else" is not wrong for calling "white people" out on this. We "white people" would be better served looking in the mirror and at our core values vs recent behavior, than lashing out in weak ego-defensive behaviors that do nothing in the long term to even hold, much less improve, our ACTUAL place in the population of planet Earth.