@Bozza right

I do also have kava to rotate between

I can't take kratom and kava at the same time

Kava kills cravings from everything

I planned on cycling between them anyway.

I'll be careful, I have a system down I've been using the last few months

@Vermillion-Rx

You know that short term effects and long ones are AS similar as 2 unicorns when they meet each other, or like Typo and Deeeeply.

PS. For a good year I could never say who is who

For what it's worth, even though this is only my second time (last night and today) trying the white maeng da it seems good for my bipolar disorder.

I feel like my mood is better and I have more motivation than normal

So far it seems to be balancing me out more than psychiatric medications

@SeasonedRP

Interesting. I didn't know about it until 2 months ago when I needed to quit alcohol.

I've been sober since trying kava and kratom

@Bozza

I don't think I'll get addicted. I don't feel addicted

This is a lot easier than alcohol

But I guess I'll just stop recommending it till I know more about it

I also have kava to switch between if I ever do notice it's hard and need to switch off.

At any rate I don't feel any addiction. If somehow I am addicted I don't notice, alcohol had a way stronger pull on me

@Vermillion-Rx

Kratom addiction develops when frequent use of the substance leads to a physical and psychological dependence, causing the user to experience cravings and withdrawal symptoms similar to those associated with opioids.

@Vermillion-Rx I would be cautious with Kratom.

Good stuff, but it is addictive so be careful with how often you use it.

@Vermillion-Rx I tried it years ago when I was having joint issues. It didn't do much for that (nothing did), but I had the same experience you did. After a fairly short time, though, it quit having that effect. I've read that the red strains have the opposite effect, but I didn't notice anything when I tried one.

@Typo-MAGAshiv

Yeah. I have a well sourced one so I don't worry about it