@Bozza @Kloi

1) there's no such thing as free. Someone pays. In the case of nationalized healthcare, taxpayers get raped.

2) I've known enough Canadians who came to the US to get away from their system. They say it's like going to the DMV to renew your driver's license: long-ass lines and inefficiency, and the quality of care sucks.

3) countries with nationalized healthcare start offering assisted suicide, and not just for the terminally ill. It's fucking ghoulish. Examples:

• Norah Vincent used Switzerland's assisted suicide to end her own life due to depression, and the world lost a valuable voice for men.

• a Canadian Veteran who needs a wheelchair to get around requested one of those mechanical chairs for getting up and down time stairs in her house. When she expressed frustration at how long it was taking, they offered her assisted suicide instead. Thanks for your fucking service, bitch!

• just a few days ago, and the story is still developing, Spain used assisted suicide to end the life of a gang-rape victim while her rapists remain free. Her father sued to stop it and lost. Here's Carl Benjamin talking about it. I never finished the video because it was just too goddamn depressing.

On top of all my objections to nationalized healthcare, the problems the US healthcare system has all stem from government interference. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. our government has meddled to make things better, things only get worse. The solution isn't more government. It's less.

@Bozza

Look I'm not going to moralize, and as one of the guys on the forum who's probably done more substances than anyone else

I've always said it'd be easier to tell you what I haven't done, than list all the niche drugs I've sampled throughout my life.

I often wonder if there is any point in writing on the topic of addiction for TRP as someone who has personally suffered through it. I know there is no point in discussing it with people who aren't ready to quit.

I have used and have heard all the rationalizations for not stopping. From using systems, to not drinking hard liquor, to cycling between substance. It's even worse for the highly functioning addicts because on paper, life looks good if you ignore the elephant in the room

it's certainly not my place to judge (not that I am).

I think it is our place to judge, not be judgmental. Daily dependency of any substance is counterproductive to growth. When I get asked about usage, there are very few drugs I am willing to recommend. 95% of them can be avoided without missing out on anything in life.

The few I do recommend always come with the cavoites, right place, right people, right mindset. That you do not need these to experience what you are looking for.