@LastRevision yes they are people that still fuck them but they don't treat them with respect.
When I was younger less than 30 years old I banged a 50 year old lady with two different friends of mine in two different occasions.
I banged her once, then a friend asked me to take him with me next time and then another friend asked me the same.
I totally treated her like a cumslut, had no respect for her and wanted nothing to do with her. I only banged her three times just to have a laugh. How the fuck is it possible to be a positive experience for her.
In my mind comes Julius Ceasar : Men (women) willingly believe what they wish - and probably these women try to trick themselves that are attractive but deep inside are insecure and in fear.
@LastRevision The Wall begins in a woman's mental state. It's not a physical thing or even an age thing, although they are factors. It's an acknowledgement that she can no longer compete for the most desirable men that she used to when she was younger.
I agree that TRP vs. Black Pill / MGTOW get stupidly polarized on this, but their binary takes on the Wall stem from a want for an emotional high to see women get their comeuppance or to wallow in their sexless misery.
@LastRevision Interesting topic, I'm heading up to the mountains for the day, will ponder this and get back to you. Short take, in a sufficiently densely populated area, a woman can churn through flings with younger men looking for a quick cheap lay well into her 40s even beyond using OLD. I think it delays but amplifies the alpha widow effect and wall. Much harder for a woman to retool her entrenched sexual strategy and learn to become worth hanging around besides for sex at 50 than 30 if her goal is a loving LTR.
What is everyone's opinion on THE WALL?
I've been wanting to do a post on "letting go of the fantasy of THE WALL" on big TRP for a while now, knowing full well it will likely get down-voted into the ground- but it's been my opinion that, for many women (some truly have poor genetics, and do age quite poorly- and the same can be said for some men), the wall isn't exactly what it was in the age before Tinder, the widening of the sexual marketplace gap, and completely acceptable promiscuity.
As a forty-year-old, I've more recently become open to a fuller age-range of women, and was SHOCKED the first time a 40+ year old woman told me she regularly gets pounded out by guys in their EARLY-TO-MID 20s.... and then, another one told me... and another... and now I expect any decent looking, single woman around 40 to be getting fucked by young Chads.
And, sure, you could say "well, getting laid isn't the same as securing value" or whatever the fuck, but due to the top 10-20% getting easy sex, leaving the bottom end out of luck and incel, there will be decent guys hanging around to wife up these sluts when they're done having fun on Tinder (or, still having fun on the DL... FTGW).
The absolute most you could say is that "she won't be as satisfied with whom she is able to husband-up because of all the Chads she's screwed blowing up her expectations"- the old alpha widow problem. And this is 100% true- but if that's the most you could say about THE WALL, I think the issue is a wrap and women won.
In the very least, the "cat lady by 35" TRP trope is just plain bullshit.
You soon will be 'cancelled' for dating a younger woman.