@Lionsmane8 Interesting explanation of what is happening in your country. I totally get it. Its crap for everyone in the end, guys not getting any, girls not getting much and most never getting the big chad husband they think they deserve thanks to the media.

Incidentally, does Muslim Chad have a name? We have Tyrone the African American incarnation but what is the Muslim Chad equivalent?

I didn't get it wrong about the left. They did mess things up. They started to legalise to fuck the patriarchy up and push women forward at the expense of men.

What you say about capitalism is true in many more developing countries. I have seen it a lot in sub saharan africa.

The left has got cosier with capitalism these days in the west too. Who else will pay their huge bills for promoting homosexuality and handing out free period products to all women? Paying maternity leave, paying for single mother and so on and so on. For the left the captialist is a cow. They want to keep him and milk him dry. The communist model where the state owned it all failed. They now want a new model where the state takes most of it from large corporations that are easy to tax and are regulation compliant.

@Lionsmane8 I love that turn of phrase "Starfish duty sex".

I think men have reacted by either backing off a bit from the market or becoming players and gaming women to get in through the "alpha exception" back door where a man gives off sufficient high value signals as to heat women up when they are just looking for a bit fun.

We must remember the role that liberal indoctrination and western style big state have played in all this. They have actively worked to achieve the uncoupling of men and women in traditional roles. From the time a little girl goes to school she is taught she will be a failure if she does not become "strong" (attitude filled and entitled) and work to pay income tax. Being the mother of many fins children is presented as a great failure to girls.

Women have been promised more and more free stuff by each subsequent generation of liberal politicians who will all need women paying tax into the big state to pay for the handouts they make.

Then there are the governments who will not let you see your daughter's medical records after she is 14 because she might want to go on the pill without telling you. Then there is sex education in schools -not how to make a baby or even how to increase pleasure for a couple but basically "bang any one you like of either sex so long as they agree to it and you use a condom" Why do they need so many lessons to hand out this really bad advice? Because they are indoctrinating against nature.

The political causes of female promiscuity should not be denied. If you look at the things the western feminists were saying in the 60's and 70's they were saying they wanted women to slut out to break the patriarchy. They won. Now we have a world where young women have a lot of fun with endless choice and free entertainment, where maturer ones struggle to even launch as wives and mothers of a single child and where older women are passed over and forgotten, useless in the work place in their angry menopausal brain fog, ignored by the men who now entertain a younger generation and unsupported in their singleton households.

The left won but at what cost to women?

@Lionsmane8 True. But its not just about work. Its about the security and power that money from work bring. Women actually work less these days than they used to. They just get paid for it and usually get paid more than they deserve for the work they do thanks to equality laws...

Women always have worked to a degree. Its just that these days work gets you money not food and resources for your family for which they are grateful and value you. Money was invented less then 3 thousand years ago.

Money gets a woman security more than men can offer, particularly in a big state world where everyone is kept safe inside fences "for their own good" Strength and good character will not buy you much in this world. You just need proof of having always complied with regulation and money and the world is yours -at least as much of it as you can afford.

Security is a bit of a drug for women. Their natural weakness makes them value security more than men -hence they way they chase college degrees more than men, hence why they want sound beta providers before they get thinking about a grown up relationship. There is very little they can get from men these days apart from money and entertainment. If they are not gold diggers, they still want the entertaining and they still want the sound beta because nature wired them that way.

But what is in that for a man who can provide all his own resources anyway? Who is not hungry for security beyond emotional security -the one thing this system where he is disposable won't give him. A bit of sex when she likes when he has entertained and/ or spent enough?

Its a bum deal for men if they want to do more than act high value and have immature childish relationships that are usually short and where the real goal of seeking a mate -procreation- is actually feared not sought!

@Smallpenis77 Are many /most young women indulging in casual sex because they can and treating it like it has no consequence? Yes.

Is this way too accepted by society? Yes. Casual sex has consequences for pair bonding and valuing partners. This has been known by our forebears but the knowledge was cancelled by the counter culture revolution that created the modern left.

Can a man be in the wrong to have feelings about something that just doesn't naturally feel right to him (or most other men when they are honest to themselves) about society? No. Men should be allowed to have feelings and preferences.

Would a man be getting too deep about this? -yes and no. Its the world we live in and we won't change it significantly in our lives but if we don't say how we feel and act to give value to the things we value, then we are being untrue to ourselves. But you still have to live and try to be happy in this world.