@SwarmShawarma This one is doubly telling.

Firstly it proves women will spend on a man they really want to snag.

Secondly it proves they can't be honest about it. Thousands of guys pay out like this for girls they hope to snag but they do it openly. They tell the girl and the girl gets her ego inflated by it and this in turn gives the guy a tiny weeny bit more chance with her. This girl lied that the tickets were free. This actually makes it not a very good offer "I have these free tickets I have to use up, will you help me use them?" is nothing like as gratifying as "I want to take you to. x (which I know you like) and I have paid for everything" The first offer makes me think I am doing her a favour, the second makes me feel like a stud stallion she is willing to pay for.

Why did she lie? Was it for the same reason women give male escorts the money to pay for the meal when they get taken out? -she doesn't want to see herself as paying for a man's time, it spoils the fantasy. or was it because men are too principled to accept such a desperate offer. If he took it he would feel he had to be her boyfriend and he didn't really fancy her. Did she know this deep down inside? I suspect it was this reason.

@Typo-MAGAshiv When you talk about these things, I can see you have a deep background in the manosphere. Very impressive.

I think its the binary nature of Alpha and Beta that make it such an attractive idea for people -just stop being so beta and switch on being alpha and all your woes are fixed.

I find myself falling into Alpha and Beta sometimes when talking about a guy who is doing his bit blue pill style to support and cherish a woman who is taking him for granted, I tend to think of and refer to him as "her beta"

I have sometimes thought it useful to look at Alpha and Beta through the light of female perception not male reality. I like to look at it like this.

There are two main routes to pussy in a normal mentally healthy woman, the Alpha and Beta routes. It is important to understand that these routes exist inside a woman's head not in the real world. The standard route is the Beta route. Pussy is earned. A male has to meet a threshold of sufficient quality to be accepted but then he also has to court and protect a woman, give resources to her and mate guard her, then when she feels in the mood, she will be open to him sexually. In short Briffault's law applies.

There is also a system for exceptions -the Alpha route. Here a male appears to be of sufficient quality -whether from looks, status or wealth that he simply can't be passed up on. For this man rules will be broken and he can have pussy on credit. The on credit bit is important because this route never endures long in an unbroken relationship. If a relationship starts by this route and the woman actually gets to eventually claim the man as "her's" she will eventually revert to only offering the man the standard Beta route.

There are plenty of good examples of this to be seen in the marriages of handsome, wealthy, famous men who get snagged by a hot groupie and end up being her beta. In most cases the man knows his worth and does not get snagged. He moves on and the woman pines for him and a man of his perceived value. In some cases the woman can become bitter and feel she has cheated herself and want to make it the man's fault for "using her". This is very common in the case of young women who fell for a man in a perceived position of authority -like a college lecturer or junior staff who fell for their boss.

My old school is currently having an amusingly belated paedo hunt. I gather it is to do with a girl who fell for a teacher back in the early 90's just after I had left. Back in those days a love affair between a 17 year old student and an English teacher was an open secret. The girl's own father found it simply a cause for eye rolling and no one was that bothered (it was a silly liberal school). My old pal's little sister used to keep a look out while the teacher banged the girl the stationary cupboard. The girl loved it. Now post wall, she suddenly decided that she was used and it was time to shout "Me too! me too" Don't forget me!" But the fact was that she couldn't help herself at the time. She though he was such value, she couldn't help but hunt him down.

This is why we need laws about teachers and students. Its not because its unnatural and perverted for older men to pursue young women, its because its only too natural for young women to fall for men they perceive as high value and tempt them to their destruction. There is this Alpha route that circumvents women's usual defences and PUAs practice the tells of high value in the hope of triggering this route.

There are also unhealthy women, broken by years of slutting who simply use this route as a way to give themselves temporary validation and pleasure and they are easy meat for PUAs but they too tend to feel they have cheated themselves in the end. You can't always put out on credit and not feel cheated in the end.

@Typo-MAGAshiv I agree. I find myself either kicking against it or only using it in humour, particularly in response to good shit posts.

I think it may have had some mileage once in describing men in situations where there are unspoken rankings but you can't take it too far or it becomes one of those pseudo sciences like phrenology in the past or sociology today.

I never got the idea of the Sigma, surely there are just lots of different sorts of Alpha behaviour, often depending on whether this is big dog's home patch in which he is invested or if a high status male is just doing his shit and does not seek to rule in a situation as opposed to do what he likes?

How far down the Greek alphabet do you sub divide men. Do we stop at epsilon?

To what extent are these rankings situational as opposed to general? We can all think of a leader at a club who is really quite low ranking in life but is a revered expert in his field, often rather irritatingly using his temporary status to grab all the female attention he can.

Surely an omicron just by the name is worse than an omega? I would rather be a big o than a little one wouldn't you?

@Stigma Lets go one further and say gun woman. Lets reclaim stereotypical male behaviour for women. Women would no doubt have done more shootings if only the oppressive patriarchy had given them the opportunity instead of conditioning them to believe they were kind and nurturing. It is only the social construct of gender that stops women doing these things (not the patriarchal assertion that they are smart and risk adverse enough to commit crimes in more beneficial ways to themselves).

The left say that trans women are real women (until tranny rights cost feminist rights then pussy trumps cutting off your dick). No feminists were inconvenienced in this shooting so we can say "gun woman" knowing that we doing the right thing by all women and emancipating them from patriarchal stereotypes.

@deeplydisturbed But shopping is so much easier. I have a good idea where to find what I want before I go shopping. I know what I will pay if I buy it. I pay cash and take it home. its mine then for as long as I want it. If someone stole it the police might catch them and get it back (doubtful when the police are all out catching racist, sexist and homophobic tweeters but its still theoretically possible). If it bores me I can put it in a cupboard or sell it.

Shopping for a girl on the other hand oh boy. Its complex. These days you can't own one but you always seem to be paying rent in some way on them.

Random Saturday evening thought. Dating is like putting cash into a slot machine. Each date you steadily put resources of time and money into the machine hoping that the lights will flash and the machine will pay (put) out. Some machines pay out easily, others need you to put more in before you get anywhere. You can try several one after another if you like. Once you get one that seems to be paying out, you tend to keep playing with it. Once you are hooked, the machine pays out less and less often but still just about enough to keep you playing. At this point do not make the assumption that purchasing the machine will secure the payouts.

@redpillschool Actions speak louder than words. I sold 3 KG physical the weekend before last. Was pretty pissed that the Indian dealers who were open on Saturday stung me way under spot. The Jews had closed for the sabbath. (The Jewish precious metal dealers are a lot fairer in my experience). Not too bothered now though.

I have also ditched about 400 ounces of silver bullion pool on the way up from $50. Still got about 125 ounces left. Kind of hoping it goes back over $100 but in the end if those ounces drop back down and I don't sell, I am chilled as they are more than paid for.

Silver spikes hard once a decade or two. Then you dump it fast. That's been my strategy. Load up when everyone says its junk, smile at them and buy more when you can. Then when it goes parabolic dump it and it won't matter if you time it right or not, you will be winning by miles and only a greedy man gets burnt.

I would not personally buy silver now. Silver is a commodity people occasionally invest in. Its not like gold, which is a source of value in itself. Silver needs to be needed to be valuable and it gets used up, so much speculation goes into it, making it volatile and prone to squeezes, panic buys and opportunism. Smart men can make money in it and smart men can also get badly burnt.

The risk is that there is a big speculation bubble. ETFs have got ordinary folk into it now. These are the people who will pay for everyone else's profit when it tanks. Once it has clearly tanked the speculators will bug out, taking their losses and the price will fall further.

I might short it now, if I had the balls. This could be the top. It could, of course, be the end of the second wave. in hindsight people mark the charts up so wisely but looking forward, I am not smart enough to say.

Personally I will look for the classic Elliot wave market correction, rebound and then the fall back and then load up. If that takes a few years, then cool. A wiser, braver man could no doubt make more another way but I am not all that wise or brave. I am just a blue collar guy who makes money in precious metals in slow burn ways.

As an amusing red pill aside, the cash in the safe from the 3KG is spinning my lady's hamster wheel up. "You say we have no money for a weekend away, Valentines day is coming....I carried those bars in my handbag to the dealer for you..." I keep telling her the cash (my cash from my investment, made while she was highly dubious about precious metals) will stay there till we can use it to have a weekend in the city and buy at least 4 bars back, while we are there, if not 5 or 6.