@SeasonedRP it was probably much less deep than you imagine.

After their success with Venezuela, they got cocksure that they could bully Iran to fold in a few days.

It has been a while since there was a US intervention, too, and some in the military wanted, as Trump put it, "fun".

It's absurd, but a lot of what happens in international relations, war as well, is based on emotion rather than logic and planning.

@Bozza

When I first woke up to gender dynamics, and was trying to tease women about their priviledge, I observed that some older women would just STFU. A couple explicitly admitted that they were obscenely priviledged to live a protected life with no responsibility under the care of their husbands, but they just accepted it as a fact of life.

@adam-l not only that, it was a double tap strike, wherein the second American Tomahawk lingered over the area, revealing swarms of civilians at the site of the first strike. Rather than reassigning to an alternative target on this information, the missile got reconfigured to use remaining fuel to generate a supplemental hyperbaric explosion. American did that shit! Look with a RP lens, how Trump and other administration officials progressed through lying and flipping blame on the victim country, denial, trickle truth, then hand waving it off. Those supporting, denying, and excusing the entire affair, assume the moral culpability for it. If the world holds Nuremberg type trials in the aftermath, responsible individuals might literally hang.

Guys, you did notice that the US deliberately struck the school with the children of the Iranian military personnel, killing dozens. Right?

@adam-l

Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.

• Agent Smith

@SwarmShawarma

It's one of the greatest tragedy of the hulan species, that it needs stress or enemies to feel alive...

@adam-l uh-huh....

Then what was your entire point here?

You wasted a lot of your time, my time, and the time of anyone following along by grasping at straws.

Hell, more like grasping at nothing, because your objection to my saying what I said was a nonsensical objection.

@Typo-MAGAshiv I have no clue about John Lennon other that he was Beatles and got himself and his group fucked by a borderline woman.

Probably was a borderline humself, as many top-tier artists.

I'm not in the habit of defending, or attacking for that matter, people. I'm more interested in social dynamics, i.e. laws and processes.

Looking back over this thread, @adam-l, I think you're just a John Lennon fanboy who's upset that I called him a piece of shit, and was able to back it up, and so you grasped at straws and continue to grasp at straws to make him not a piece of shit.

But he was. And you know it's true.

@adam-l

So basically I'm just arguing about the obvious, i.e. that you are closed to that perspective.

A) why didn't you lead with that, instead of wasting your time and mine with what you said instead, which made no sense?

B) of course I'm closed to communism. it's fucking stupid! it doesn't work, it never has worked, and it never will work. It will always collapse upon itself due to human nature.

Therein lies the value of utopias: they provide Insights

Fantasy worlds are just that: fantasy.