Typo-MAGAshiv @Butthead

6 days ago  The Public Square

@MentORPHEUS your stance on this seems to mostly be based on something like "I haven't personally witnessed this, so it must not be happening all that much if at all".

You were an auto mechanic with your own business, right? That's why you never witnessed such bullshit.

I witnessed similar to what @antelope is saying when I was a university student at the turn of the century, while in the Army, and at a corporate job. I never had to do a loyalty oath, but I had to pass quizzes that showed I paid attention and understood their bullshit about "muh diversity", "muh inclusion", and "muh tolerance" ("muh equity" hadn't caught on back then).

Now that I'm in the skilled trades, I don't see any of it at all (thank God).

While healthy skepticism is a good thing, do you tell hurricane victims "I've never witnessed a hurricane, so this probably didn't happen to you"?

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Whisper

about a week ago  The Public Square

@MentORPHEUS

If I were setting out to convince you of something, an offer of evidence would be in order. But I come to you and ask you to believe, or not believe, anything. In fact, I didn't start this conversation at all. You did, by tagging me in.

So, you wanted to know what I thought, I told you what I thought. I also told you what I've seen.

You asked, I answered.

If you want to have a debate about it, with evidence presented on both sides, then you must want that for one of two reasons.

  1. Either you want to have your mind changed, in which case you can go investigate for yourself instead of asking me to cherry-pick for you.

  2. Or you want to change my mind, in which the ball's in your court.
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MentORPHEUS

about a week ago  The Public Square

@SeasonedRP This offers specific info which I will pursue further now. Thanks.

MentORPHEUS

about a week ago  The Public Square

@Antelope I didn't mean these were the correct standards after all, I mean society itself involves adhering to standards the question at hand is where are the touch points where these standards are supposedly getting centrally imposed?

I ask anyone interested to bring examples of this happening so they can get proactively addressed. As a long-term project try to post an example of the job materials you talked about.

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MentORPHEUS

about a week ago  The Public Square

@Antelope

Allegiance must be pledged in some form or other.

Hello, basis of literally every group up to level of whole societies.

You present a rim of the bathtub academia edge case. If this is indeed spreading to general population Institutions as claimed these would be accessible for the likes of us to take concrete action against. If there exist none, that is the what's-really-there that red pillers must come to see.

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adam-l

about a week ago  The Public Square

@MentORPHEUS

The "agency" has been actively pushing for what we are living now since at least the 70s. Financing Ms magazine and Gloria Steinem etc. A very effective way to replace the Left's class politics with, well, bullshit. I believe it worked way better than in their wildest dreams, that's why it got wholeheartedly adopted in the last decade.

So, it's not that Feminism is a bullshit ideology that took over the system. It's that Feminism is one of the bullshit ideologies that were around, and for several reasons got selected.

The system's core is a psychopath, it doesn't really have any other ideology than totalitarianism, than focusing exclusively on power. The exact same "elites" that now support feminism would have selected Nazism, if it suited them better.

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MentORPHEUS

about a week ago  The Public Square

@Antelope

a couple of hours of being told about the new normal in societal acceptance and then an hour of testing that new knowledge.

Not necessarily you personally, but I often find after drilling down on individual claims, that the person's account conflates routine and reasonable "don't discriminate against or carelessly offend or hurt those different from yourself on Company time/business" policy into "They make you swear loyalty to the radical left's agenda!!!1!"

It's sometimes same formulaic response to changing cultural standards that emerged with other issues our society has successfully come to terms with and not collapsed as predicted. For example a colored person in the workplace or neighborhood.

At my suburban city pool and weight room they recently posted signs in the shower in the distinct and mildly annoying language of inclusiveness regarding persons who may not identify with traditional gender roles using the showers. The effect on my shower experience? Absolutely nil.

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MentORPHEUS

about a week ago  The Public Square

@adam-l Decent video but take the CIA ad used as an example. Does it actually mean the CIA has become wokeness contaminated systemically, or are they superficially pandering to their target recruitment age's buzzwords because it's effective at keeping applicant numbers on target, in a rather obvious act of cultural appropriation that genuinely woke viewers would see directly through and not respond favorably to?

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MentORPHEUS

about a week ago  The Public Square

@Antelope I appreciate your effort to provide a source, but this looks like an assignment from a textbook, which offers the opportunity to critique what is stated which would be hard to defend in its own right but this doesn't make demands of job applicants or employees.

I'm seeking actual cases to address because I have ideas how to take effective action against different forms of actual attacks upon our interests and allies. I want to take the discourse beyond reposting tabloid ragebait whose claims never stand up well to scrutiny, which seems to merely reinforce a culture of "everyone knows and sees this" yet even the likes of @Whisper brings "you're being naive" when challenged instead of "I have proof "

I think the kind of Woke domination being described exists maybe in a Bathtub Curve at the edges of society at large. In the shittiest inconsequential places like a Walmart run as a feifdom by a bad general manager, or in strict academia far from client or production work. The former happens around an individual manager and never lasts beyond 2-3year peak feifdom and never beyond the individual store level. It's not a woke specific phenomenon I've seen it center on the manager's religion, conservative politics, or their Amway or Shaklee Products side hustle.

If there really exists a centralized push of this stuff making SUCCESSFUL inroads into general society and industry I still want to see specifics that can get confronted and addressed effectively.

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MentORPHEUS

about a week ago  The Public Square

@SeasonedRP

Universities requiring DEI affirmations/woke mission statements by faculty is one example. Getting funding for research often has similar strings attached.

Each must specify the parameters of these requirements in writing. Can you provide an example from either case?

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