1y ago  The Hub

Finding myself enraged with women, need help.

I struggle to move things forward, and very rarely do I see compliance from women as our engagement continues.

They always seem to be doing some kind of power play/shit test bs with me.

I’ll text them, and 5/10 will be enthusiastic, but if I suggest a call, 9/10 drop out.

I don’t intend to be an orbiter, so I’ll just block/remove girls that waste my time, but at this rate, I’m going to end up blocking every woman I speak to!

My style of game is more direct, so maybe that’s a problem, but I really don’t know what the hell I’m going to “gab” with them about.

Their fickle nature is enraging me and coloring my thoughts and attractions towards them.

Now if I were an unattractive loser, this would not be a problem. I’d shut up, looksmaxx, work to get more money, and get more social.

But this is objectively not the case, and I know this because I get complimented from attractive, random women I don’t know all the time, I often match with ultra-attractive girls on OLD, and just generally have gotten the understanding that I’m attractive by observing the way people/women behave around me.

I’m also not some under-confident simp because I’m well aware of my worth, which I’ve built through working out, socialising, being a competitive athlete, and other competence builders.

I don’t mean for any that to come off as boastful, I’m just presenting the facts for what they are.

However, outside of the women that are already sold on me by way of how I look or how they have perceived me in the first 5 seconds, I can’t seem spin a single plate.

If we look at it like a marketing funnel, 95% of women are dropping out at bottom of the top of the funnel.

What am I doing wrong?

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1y ago  The Hub

@destraht thank you so much for taking the time to help me comprehensively understand what’s going on. I’m going to go look at the documentary right now.

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1y ago  The Hub

@destraht understood. To your earlier point, I definitely lack closing skills because this has plagued me in business too.

Any guidelines on how I can improve?

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1y ago  The Hub

@Durek_The_Bald true, but I’m in a small town in the third world working on a project, so calling is really my only option until I’m back stateside.

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1y ago  The Hub

@Durek_The_Bald when I say direct game, I mean, I don’t tend to do a lot of conversation, mostly let my body language and non-verbal flirting do the work.

Like I said, I don’t know how to “gab” lol

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1y ago  The Hub

@58to62LegLengthening this is GOLD. Thank you!

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1y ago  The Hub

@58to62LegLengthening you’ve hit the nail on the head. I’m going to check this out. Thank you

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1y ago  The Hub

@Lionsmane8 this is very accurate. As a man it’s hard for me tolerate disrespect, so even when she wants to feel my strength by shit testing me, I find it repugnant being left on delivered, etc. for 20 hours and I’ll just block them.

Also, what you mentioned about intent vs interest was quite interesting. Could you elaborate on that perhaps?

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1y ago  The Hub

@Jocbro I wouldn’t say you’re starting from scratch. All the traits you learned along the way will have you back to baseline fast. In addition, you’re aware of any pitfalls, so whatever you do now will be a cleaner solution.

I know this is not the practical advice you might be looking for, but it’s important for you to have self belief right now.

You did it once, you can do it again. Faster and better.

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1y ago  The Hub

Where do you meet girls?

Or, to put it differently:

How do you create a predictable source of platable women?

To solidify an abundance mentality I feel like I need to evidentially know that if one of my plates acts up, I can get sex elsewhere.

What are some methods that have been most reliable for you?

I know that:

  1. Creating a lifestyle where you’re around beautiful girls all the time and they just organically fall into your sphere is an option. Probably the best one too.

  2. Online dating is an option.

  3. Cold approach is an option.

  4. Social circle game is an option.

For me personally:

On the topic of SMV, I am in great shape, 25, 5’8, kinda like a shorter, more buff, Cristiano Ronaldo, socially adept. Get IOIs from women at the gym all the time. However, I’m broke for now. And I understand that money is a foundational component of status, and freedom of location for option 1., so I’m working on it.

Online dating rarely results in dates. I match with a lot of hot girls, but it rarely translates into dates. Once every 2-3 months or something, if that.

Cold approach is as low ROI as OLD, but it does comprise volume. Especially at the bar. I’ll make out with ultra hot girls at the bar, but it never results in plates with devotion.

Finally, social circle is something I’m going to start working on as I’m moving to a new city again, shortly. In the past, this has worked best for me, in that it’s the only thing that actually gets me laid lol.

Anyway, I’m sure there’s things I’m doing wrong, but if anyone has any advice on how to create a reliable pipeline, I am all ears.

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