"My kids are my world. Ready to settle down."
George Lucas, winner of the Totally Understands Women Trophy (from Mr. Plinkett's Star Wars reviews):
Life's good, man, thanks for asking. Kids are good, marriage is good, and I've got a good work/play balance.
How are things with you?
I bet that shit's self-reported
Immediately thought the same thing. Why? Because the most common reason isn't even on the list.
Half of the time, all of those reasons are just womanese for: "Baby rabies, and wanting to be married had me convinced I could learn to be into the nice, stable, provider type. But I just couldn't."
I'm not going volcel if, at some point, my marriage doesn't serve me anymore. But I'm most definitely going MGTOW, as in "no marriage, no cohabitation, no kids".
The way I see it, there's only one good reason to live with a woman, and that's having kids together. I've got all the kids I want, so there won't be a reason for me to cohabitate with another woman again.
I know some guys who do the every-other-week thing, and it seems a rather nice, peaceful life (so long as there's no war going on with the ex). I can definitely see myself enjoying that lifestyle.
This is what it feels like when you haven't visited trp.red in a while:
A) you fucked up my username. Twice, in fact. have some vcards!
B) a man can do everything "right" and still get suboptimal results. Ever listen to Rian Stone talk about how the guys at MRP end up? Most guys who show up don't put in the work and disappear. Of the guys who put in the work and run their MAPs, some of them end up divorced anyway. Of those who end up divorced, some of it is because their improvements were too little, too late. Others are because the wife is too retarded to appreciate a decent guy when she has one. Others initiate it themselves because after putting in all that work, they want better than their wives.
So again: you can do everything right, and still have suboptimal results.
To believe otherwise is a massive covert contract ("if I do all the stuff, I'll have a problem-free life!").
C) in your OP, you said:
If you don't have genuinely enjoyable sexual/romantic relationships with women, you are not red pill.
There are plenty of Red Pill MGTOW guys who are just done. Terrence Popp. Joker of Better Bachelor. Sandman. HammerHand. Some of the guys who used to populate the comments section at WAATGM such as our founder @Kevin32, and DangZagnut aka YouSaidChicken. All of them have demonstrated knowledge and experience, and have decided they'd rather not bother with women anymore.
I can understand and respect that decision, though it's not for me.
D)
If all his theoretical knowledge only brought him to a place of perpetual resentment, schadenfreude, victimhood, and a need to complain about everything under the sun,
The ones who fit that description are either new and still in the anger phase, or just got stuck in it way longer than most. They deserve pity and help rather than scorn.
... up to a point. If someone makes a deliberate decision to wallow in misery even after getting offered help, I'll roast the shit out of him for being a pussy-ass whiner.
Read MoreIf TRP is praxeology, then the state of a man's red pill journey can only be judged from where he's actually at in real, lived terms. If all his theoretical knowledge only brought him to a place of perpetual resentment, schadenfreude, victimhood, and a need to complain about everything under the sun, then either the theory is wrong, or he hasn't demonstrated that is has actionable value.
While that's an interesting idea, have you ever considered that the guys you've noticed who're completely unable to advance beyond the anger stage of grief after taking the red pill might simply be Gamma's?
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If TRP is praxeology, then the state of a man's red pill journey can only be judged from where he's actually at in real, lived terms. If all his theoretical knowledge only brought him to a place of perpetual resentment, schadenfreude, victimhood, and a need to complain about everything under the sun, then either the theory is wrong, or he hasn't demonstrated that is has actionable value.