I'm not going volcel if, at some point, my marriage doesn't serve me anymore. But I'm most definitely going MGTOW, as in "no marriage, no cohabitation, no kids".
The way I see it, there's only one good reason to live with a woman, and that's having kids together. I've got all the kids I want, so there won't be a reason for me to cohabitate with another woman again.
I know some guys who do the every-other-week thing, and it seems a rather nice, peaceful life (so long as there's no war going on with the ex). I can definitely see myself enjoying that lifestyle.
This is what it feels like when you haven't visited trp.red in a while:
A) you fucked up my username. Twice, in fact. have some vcards!
B) a man can do everything "right" and still get suboptimal results. Ever listen to Rian Stone talk about how the guys at MRP end up? Most guys who show up don't put in the work and disappear. Of the guys who put in the work and run their MAPs, some of them end up divorced anyway. Of those who end up divorced, some of it is because their improvements were too little, too late. Others are because the wife is too retarded to appreciate a decent guy when she has one. Others initiate it themselves because after putting in all that work, they want better than their wives.
So again: you can do everything right, and still have suboptimal results.
To believe otherwise is a massive covert contract ("if I do all the stuff, I'll have a problem-free life!").
C) in your OP, you said:
If you don't have genuinely enjoyable sexual/romantic relationships with women, you are not red pill.
There are plenty of Red Pill MGTOW guys who are just done. Terrence Popp. Joker of Better Bachelor. Sandman. HammerHand. Some of the guys who used to populate the comments section at WAATGM such as our founder @Kevin32, and DangZagnut aka YouSaidChicken. All of them have demonstrated knowledge and experience, and have decided they'd rather not bother with women anymore.
I can understand and respect that decision, though it's not for me.
D)
If all his theoretical knowledge only brought him to a place of perpetual resentment, schadenfreude, victimhood, and a need to complain about everything under the sun,
The ones who fit that description are either new and still in the anger phase, or just got stuck in it way longer than most. They deserve pity and help rather than scorn.
... up to a point. If someone makes a deliberate decision to wallow in misery even after getting offered help, I'll roast the shit out of him for being a pussy-ass whiner.
Read MoreIf TRP is praxeology, then the state of a man's red pill journey can only be judged from where he's actually at in real, lived terms. If all his theoretical knowledge only brought him to a place of perpetual resentment, schadenfreude, victimhood, and a need to complain about everything under the sun, then either the theory is wrong, or he hasn't demonstrated that is has actionable value.
While that's an interesting idea, have you ever considered that the guys you've noticed who're completely unable to advance beyond the anger stage of grief after taking the red pill might simply be Gamma's?
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If TRP is praxeology, then the state of a man's red pill journey can only be judged from where he's actually at in real, lived terms. If all his theoretical knowledge only brought him to a place of perpetual resentment, schadenfreude, victimhood, and a need to complain about everything under the sun, then either the theory is wrong, or he hasn't demonstrated that is has actionable value.
Been checking out some "red pill" content on the internet lately, and this is my verdict of the state of affairs:
Red pill is red pill. But the vast majority of men populating red pill space, or creating content, are not red pill.
If you don't have genuinely enjoyable sexual/romantic relationships with women, you are not red pill.
If your primary emotion with regards to women is one of frustration, and wanting to complain, you are not red pill.
If you aren't at least content with your life, and the role women play in it, you are not red pill.
Why? Because there is no greater indicator of you knowing nothing than your unhappiness and dissatisfaction.
If I wouldn't want to walk in your shoes, your insights and advice mean nothing.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE7PKRjrid4
"This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember, all I'm offering you is the truth, nothing more."
— Morpheus, "The Matrix" (1999)
Many believe that the truth will set them free, and it most certainly can, but this is a change that requires a sacrifice. In this instance, it means the end of seeking comfort in lies. Unfortunately, liars lie, it's what they do, and while the challenge for most is not falling for lies, liars themselves tend to be cunning, abundant, and persistent.
These men having reevaluated their lives through a red pill perspective are grieving the death of the comfort they once felt in the lies they'd been told. The anger they're venting is apart of the grieving process. As long as these men steer clear of drugs and alcohol, they will reach acceptance, and they'll be all the better for it.
Frankly, it's more unsettling to me that you believe yourself to be red pill, yet like a lot of guys don't understand this.
Read MoreMany of them are Red Pill. They're just bad at it and/or perpetual anger phase.
And what the others already said.
I'll join the sceptics, on this.
Some men (most?) eventually want children. I personally don't, but I understand them. And the fact is that with the "women first" societal trope, they are more likely to end up trying to protect their children from being devoured from their mother, than coasting in life.
Up to recently men thought they could just grab the wheel of the racing car and be a pilot. Now, they are beginning to realize the need to establish safety, first and foremost. That's legit.
Been checking out some "red pill" content on the internet lately, and this is my verdict of the state of affairs:
Red pill is red pill. But the vast majority of men populating red pill space, or creating content, are not red pill.
If you don't have genuinely enjoyable sexual/romantic relationships with women, you are not red pill.
If your primary emotion with regards to women is one of frustration, and wanting to complain, you are not red pill.
If you aren't at least content with your life, and the role women play in it, you are not red pill.
Why? Because there is no greater indicator of you knowing nothing than your unhappiness and dissatisfaction.
If I wouldn't want to walk in your shoes, your insights and advice mean nothing.
Any geopolitical motivation is going to boil down to a resource in one way or another
Geography in itself is sometimes a reason (mountain chains, sea passages, islands etc.).
Also, there's a lot wealth to be transferred from the taxpayer to the military-industrial complex, by having to replace destroyed military equipment, and infrastructure.
There doesn't necessarily have to be a resource grab for some very wealthy and powerful people to make a lot of money off of war.