The messages i didn't get from her were sms
It's usually RCS
It had more to do with where she was with her family when that was happening
The messages i didn't get from her were sms
It's usually RCS
It had more to do with where she was with her family when that was happening
Guys keep frame when you don't get a response back from women
Yes sometimes they ghost or are up to something
Sometimes their service just sucks
Had a good communicator fuck buddy suddenly ghost me last night and i cleverly broached the subject after I reached out this morning and her texts started off short and cold
Once I slyly brought it up she sent me screenshots of all the stuff she sent me last night that i didn't reply to
Her service was trash.
Sometimes shit happens, keep frame. I could have easily made faggot replies this morning after thinking something changed (not that i would have but the point stands).
Tone matters in shit test passes
It's entirely possible even just slightly different tone would have a different outcome
Personally, I've gotten some similar shit tests about not coming back and i just allude to what they'd miss out on
"If you don't want to have a good time again who am i to stop you"
"I'm not sure you'll be able to avoid coming back"
I don't remember my exact lines but even a few extra words a and cheeky confident attitude can pass
Basically being indifferent is passing if they think you are absolutely dead serious however it introduces overkill drama
Women are so solipstic that they will sometimes fully absorb a joke as reality if it isn't removed enough from literal
@Vermillion-Rx So example with plate 1 the other day.
I told her to wear a nice lingerie set for me. She decided to get a little bratty/playful and wanted me to say please. So I yielded "please". She then pushed further "say the full sentence". Which I wasn't gonna do, so I just kinda dismissed that.
As expected, she shows up in lingerie. But plays her own little punishment game - "I would have worn the suspenders if you'd have been polite". Again, some mild cheeky response back.
She pushes this little shit test about me "not being polite" a few times over the evening. Again, all pretty mild and I just reinforce that she does what she's told.
Then before she left I can't remember exactly what she said. But it was a shit testing my authority.
I came up with some witty clap back, to which she says "Well, maybe I just won't come back then". And looks at me playfully.
I fired back "Don't then".
She then puts on the fake shock face "Bozza!". Didn't really think much of it at the time, but her demeanor subtly changed after that. Nothing terrible, but I think the subtext of "you can be replaced" did upset her though she didn't want to show it.
Read MoreDo you mind sharing the example?
I can assume but it's challenging to tell
I rarely pass shit tests with force. It really doesn't take much if they already like you
@Vermillion-Rx I think one of my biggest problems is my response to shit tests.
I come out with some pretty dgaf responses and they just roll off the tongue. And sometimes the responses I fire back are maybe a bit too daf when it should have been more soft.
Plate 1 was shit testing me the other day. Can't remember what I said back, but it upset her a little. Everything was smooth and she was still flirting heavily after that, but I could see there was a chink in the armour and she was a little upset with what I'd said.
So I might have to give her a little more comfort next time I see her.
I'd have to know more about your typical interactions with women but honestly just some minor communication changes can convey a ton of rapport without losing frame
I don't know enough about how you interact with your women but just consider it's probably something you could change slightly without sacrificing your goals
As much as I hate Frank Luntz, i learned a massive lesson from his quote:
It's not what you say it's what people hear
Girls are heavily responsive to phrasing. Two guys that mean exactly the same thing could say it a different way and get different results
Man.
I cold approached a hot girl tonight. "Hey (confidently) so you can say no completely, but would you mind being a demonstration for a move I'm trying to teach my buddy"
She said she didn't know how and I said "that's fine you'll get it immediately I teach very well"
She followed me. Turns out she was one of my dance partners friends and I had no idea. I did a crazy lift with her and bantered a bit and she was clearly loving it
Then her guy comes out of nowhere. Obviously i don't know her or anything. She asks if I can show him that move and it's not possible with how inexperienced he is so i show him basics. He fucking sucks and keeps asking me to demonstrate.
She keeps holding my hand longer and longer and I keep trying to let it go sooner and sooner. Then she starts taking her hand off my shoulder and running it along my chest to take her hand off.
Keep in mind her guy is right there and I'm trying so fucking hard to discourage it and I just can't.
I ask both of them if they need a break and they keep saying no. Him because he wants to learn, her because she obviously doesn't want me to fucking leave.
I'm not gonna bail in the middle of showing this guy how to safely do a move i started teaching him so I keep trying and he just sucks so fucking bad. Even looks like a chode. I don't know how these women i would fuck the shit out of end up with these chodes but here we are.
I'm doing everything I can to help this man not be an inept faggot but here we are having his hot girlfriend he shouldn't have touching me every 5 seconds
Once he got the move I immediately bailed.
Ended up standing next to my dance partner friend and her again and she immediately copied my body language and starts asking me questions. I felt so fucking bad. I had to be extra nice to her guy when he got back
I can't help but feel sorry for these guys, in part because i know their girls probably jill off to me later and would rather fuck me.
And in part because these women often never once announce they have a guy. When i cold approached, if she had said "I'd love to but I'm waiting for my boyfriend/husband" i would have said no problem
Here I am gaming this woman and have honestly no idea she's with someone. She told me the second time "I've never been lifted in my life"
I'm like "not even by 'dad'" and she said no. whether true or not it's the mark of a deprived woman.
I have a soft spot for these chodes. They are so fucking clueless. And their women touch me in front of their dude. I'm not even sure they see it because "their" girls are so subtle about it. The slow hand removal from my body. I feel it but I'm not sure their guy can see it.
Most people in my life know i haven't been in a relationship in like 13 years and they wonder why.
Not even safe from your girlfriend/wife even right in front of her where you can see everything
God this woman didn't want to let go of my hand/body while I was teaching them. It's hard to keep a straight face when you are not only distracted teaching but also running red pill analysis through your head in the middle of it
I have almost zero faith in women after everything I've experienced being confident
Read More@Vermillion-Rx Think I might need to calibrate, but we're still early days so not enough data points to go on yet.
My problem is that I generally lean quite cold in terms of emotion, and always have done. My ex left me because I wasn't giving her enough comfort (which I can see tbf) but I'll also take that explanation with a heavy helping of salt.
But then internally I think I run too beta and can slip into that quite easily. So it's a bit of an internal struggle really.
But we'll run a bunch more women, see what happens and then adjust accordingly.
Maybe you just look too high value or need to tone down some red pill to plate them.
I could be far worse than I am (fron their point of view) but I typically don't take it that far
You might have to calibrate but either way it's quite clear what she's doing
I've had some of these girls as well despite extending additional rapport to them
Sometimes you get narcissistically wounded women or some girls that feel the absolute necessity to try to clown you for whatever reason
I encounter it frequently in my night scene. They hate your success some times