@Typo-MAGAshiv Same with Tarantino. Once upon a time in Hollywood is a great movie, but how much of Margot Robbie’s screen time is her bare feet? Same for other movies of his.
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@Typo-MAGAshiv Same with Tarantino. Once upon a time in Hollywood is a great movie, but how much of Margot Robbie’s screen time is her bare feet? Same for other movies of his.
@Lionsmane8 He used the historical part as justification for his actions because he wants to reestablish Russia as it was hundreds of years ago. Putin sees himself as head of state as the successor of the Zars. The jabber about America not being nice or the Ukrainians being Nazis is just a facade for his territorial ambitions. It’s not the first state he has invaded and it’s not gonna be the last, though I have serious doubts he’d invade Poland, but he would any non NATO country that he deems historical Russian territory. Putin essentially claims what is the case for Palestine for Ukraine: he says it’s not a real country and not a legitimate people as they have no historical state or their own separate heritage or culture. He claims they’ve always been part of Russia as palestine was always in the hands of different empires. I don’t care either way, I have no stakes in Ukraine. Though I do disagree on many assertions of his. Kyiv has a long history as an important european city. It was an important trade city long before Rus was established as a state (which is still a far cry from todays Russia, though it laid the groundwork and set up the culture) and it was more important than Moskau as a city of culture, economy and statehood. That’s why it was chosen as the first capitol of Rus. That Kyiv therefore should now be controlled by Moskau is far from a straight logical line. It requires to agree on many premises Putin takes as granted, which I don’t. Kyiv has more historical connection to Paris than it does to Siberia. Anyways, drawing of historical connections is not sufficient to establish a right for Russia or Ukraine anyways. The question in my opinion is: who has the power and enough support of the population to govern the state effectively. It looks to me like most people in Ukraine are not fond of being ruled by Russia. Furthermore, Ukraine is a huge state (in European terms), it is the largest country in Europe area wise. It is not as if Russia would swallow Monaco, it’s as if Russia swallows Poland+ territory wise. Russia has 150.000.000 inhabitants, Ukraine has/had 44.000.000. That’s nearly a third of Russia’s population size. This is far from a small takeover.
As I said, I don’t really have a stake in Ukraine. The only thing I’d like to avoid is Russia’s borders and NATO borders being the same in the middle of Europe. It’s higher risk for direct conflict between powers. It would lend itself suitable for false flags, for rogue actors, for carelessness and for just regular war. Having Ukraine as a buffer is a good thing for everyone involved. Ukraine should also not become part of NATO. Another point would be that Russia would control huge amounts of Europe’s food supply if Ukraine was taken over, this is also like to avoid as it gives Russia even more political power over Europe.
Even though these are my only points of why I agree with supporting Ukraine financially and weapon wise to a certain degree as a European, I think it is important to not fall for Putin’s war time propaganda just as a matter of staying true to the facts. He’s a smart politician and man, but he’s not a truthful man. I don’t believe he believes many of the things he said. He may rationalize to himself post-facto though. I don’t know. I just know he said many untrue and many more questionable things in that interview.
Read More@Lionsmane8 How about Poland was cooperating with the Nazi but was not giving Hitler German land back and so he invaded instead of the actual truth which is that the USSR cooperated with Germany and divided up Poland and actually approved of the war. He constantly tried to portray the USSR and Russia as benevolent actors when the truth is that they acted malevolent for decades.
@TwoInchesOfShaft Read again carefully the way I worded what I said. I've been following the Ukraine situation from a variety of sources accounting for the biases of each. Putin's statements appeared internally consistent and mapped to my provisional understanding far better than what's been offered by American/Western politicians, partisans, and MSM. The truth value of much of it awaits more information or developments over time.
I'm not fond of the type of political discourse that amounts to you either dislike X as much or more than me, or you're completely victim of/fooled by/dickriding X; no other possible position.
@coolsocks00 Same here. The fanboydom surrounding Putin is just so retarded. His tactics are working for the retards.
I liked that Tucker pressured him on most questions and then let Putin show his true colors which he did, so I’ll cut Tucker some slack. I watched the interview with an open mind but Putin made himself look really bad at times and in the end, the characterization he often gets was not far off from what I’ve seen today.
@SeasonedRP I see this perspective a lot, I see the counter perspective offered a lot as well. I believe the fall of the USSR and what happened in the years afterwards is the crux of the matter. I’d love to have insight into the secured documents from the involved nations and find out what the logic of each party was and who tells the truth about this time. It’s a truly difficult situation to judge.
@Lionsmane8 Putin is the dictator of a huge country with only 150.000.000 people. He is not the main character of anything, he’s a sideshow. Biden is not a villain, the guy doesn’t even know that he’s president. Your anti west stance leaves out the fact that you are able to type here because of the west. There’s avenues where the west currently has really really bad and destructive ideas (gender ideology and equity being two of those) but it is still leaps ahead of any middle eastern, african, asian or south american region or nation when it comes to actually everything. I’d love to see a country out of any of the regions actually make progress, not only economically but spiritually, have a second enlightenment and learn from the west’s mistakes to only take away the good parts. I don’t see it happening.
Read More@Lionsmane8 Putin masterfully put his propaganda out there even though Tucker did a good job. Putin was a KGB agent and acted like one. It’s not difficult to prove many of his assertions wrong. You dickriding Putin and believing him wholesale is the confirmation bias you live on. Your whole world view is made up of confirmation bias at this point and you display it in every post.
@Mentorpheus Great that you believe it as well, shows how even you that holds his supposed intellectual prowess very dear falls victim to his biases. I hope you know and saw on how many counts Putin was factually wrong or logically inconsistent. His answers were rife with propaganda. Though he definitely is a formidable politician and I understand why people here find him to be more likeable on a personal level than the spineless beta males we got in the west (besides Trump obviously).
Read MoreIt’s crazy to see the Putin interview and then see the Biden presser. It’s like a James Bond movie where the villain is the cunning villain but James Bond is a senile idiot.
@Problematic_Browser Well, that some presidents made up classification processes for themselves is not related to the law not requiring this from the president. In my opinion, if Trump had told anyone that the stuff is declassified, it would have been declassified. I think the problem rather is that he himself said on tape that he knows it’s classified. But who cares? Hillary did worse, Biden did worse, so did and do many other politicians in the US. I’d say we stop concerning us with dumb shit like this as long as we don’t have a candidate that is not doing this stuff. In the end this debate discusses nothing about the policies.