@MentORPHEUS

For a change I'd love to see people who believe this specify and challenge them, rather than mic drop after this broad claim.

I explicated in two posts now things that were wrong. I have you enough examples, now since you know he’s a liar, you can research the rest of what he said yourself. You can be anti-nato expansion without believing a word Putin says.

And how does Putin want to have a buffer between NATO and Russia but then invades the country that is the buffer zone? He caused the revolts in Ukraine before his invasion in 2014 by sending in Russian mercenaries into territory that was Ukrainian since 1989. What are you even taking about? Again, there can be different perspectives here but to believe Putin is the innocent benevolent partner to someone who is willing to be nice to him is just plain retarded.

Each time I come on here, I get the urge to not provide any value to this community anymore. It’s devolved into 10/20 posts being by the goatfucker about buhu Israel and then your insincere bullshitting on every topic. If this is what TRP is now, then I hope this corner of the internet dies out sooner than later. It’s of no help to anyone.

@Lionsmane8 The only people the west has to care about losing its credibility to are people of the west. Without the west, the world is irrelevant. No progress on any important front is made anywhere else essentially. No matter if it’s medical research, technology or anything else for that matter, the west has nearly all the progress and has had since centuries now. Who cares what people in the Middle East think of us? Am I or is anyone else here going to listen to people who have trouble getting the most basic shit together? It’s comical how you always cry about the west while you could use that energy to focus inward to get the problems addressed that locally face your continent/region/country/people and get them to make some progress on any front. But no, you rather blame the people who designed the phone you are typing on, invented the car you are sitting in, invented printing press, the internet, motors, electricity, and so on and so forth. Fuck you and your anti west bullshit. I don’t agree with many things our politicians do, with most actually, but you and your reflexive unfounded stances against the west no matter the context or circumstance is worse than what they do.

@TwoInchesOfShaft

I just know he said many untrue and many more questionable things in that interview.

For a change I'd love to see people who believe this specify and challenge them, rather than mic drop after this broad claim.

The only thing I’d like to avoid is Russia’s borders and NATO borders being the same in the middle of Europe.

Did you somehow miss that this is one of Putin's major desires as well, and that it came up in several contexts during the interview?

Western, primarily American Globalist interests are the ones breaking the promise to Russia made circa 1990, when East Germany was released from Russian control and re-unified. One firm condition that was agreed to was that NATO would never expand one mile Eastward toward Russia.

Putin clearly called out Western meddlers formenting problems in the early 2000s, helping stage a coup d'etat in 2014, supporting the literal Nazi elements bombing and otherwise harming ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine, and breaking a peace treaty that both sides agreed to in 2022 that would have ceded only areas that wanted to reunify with Russia after their treatment by Ukrainian aggressors.

Now, Ukraine has lost over half a million fighting age men, seen much destruction of infrastructure, and no matter what will now end up with less territory than they would have under the deal that was inked before Blinken told Ukraine not to take that deal, that the West would support them no matter what in order to push NATO to Russia's border.