@Kloi A while back you asked for people to post their routines so you could get some ideas. I'd just started one and wanted to give it a little more time before posting it. It's going well, so I'm going to lay it out.

This is designed solely to improve on the Big 3. I'm not trying to gain mass. Also, one should have some training experience under his belt before doing a routine like this. It isn't important how much you can lift as that you have the ability to recover from the workouts. Recovery is key on a routine like this. Lots of late nights out or heavy drinking will impede recovery and result in overtraining.

I start my training week on Saturday, and train Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday. That's what works best for my schedule as I have time for longer workouts on the weekends. But there is nothing magical about the days of training. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Saturday, or some other combination would work fine.

Below is the exact workout I've done this past week:

Saturday Squat: work up to 7 sets of 2 (7x2) Bench press: work up to 7x2 Note: I usually do doubles or triples on my work sets on this day-this week I did doubles. I do not use the max weight I can do though for doubles or triples. I'd estimate that I'm around 80% of max. I work up to that weight then keep doing sets until the last rep gets noticeably slower, which for doubles usually takes 6-8 sets and usually 4-6 sets for triples. And this is true on all training days-I never go to the maximum weight I can do for the prescribed number of reps; I keep some in the tank. I pause all of my bench presses.

Sunday Close grip incline press: work up to 1x4 Front squat: work up to 1x4 Snatch grip deadlift: work up to 1x4 Overhead press: work up to 1x3 Bicep work (this week I did 6 sets of chin ups, 4 sets of dumbbell curls, and 3 sets of hammer curls). Bicep and ab work are optional-they aren't part of the routine. The other exercises are variations of the main lifts that don't require nearly as much weight as the main lifts, as fatigue is still present from the previous day. You can switch these up (e.g., safety bar squats instead of front squats), just don't choose something that requires as much or more weight than the Big 3 (like 3 board presses or rack pulls).

Tuesday Pause squat (I hold for a 3 count): work up to 1x2 Bench press with 3 second pause: work up to 1x5

As with Sunday's exercises, these exercises can also be substituted with some other variation of the lifts. E.g., safety bar squats, tempo squats, bench press for 1x6-8, bench press with 5-second pause, wide grip bench press.

Thursday Deadlift: work up to 4x2 (both reps on the fourth set went up as quickly as they did on the first, but I prefer a bit lower volume on deadlifts). Close grip bench press: work up to 1x6.

That's it. It's fairly straightforward. I'd say the two most important things are recovery and not using too much weight. You don't want to using a weight that takes you to failure or close-you want to have a couple reps to spare.

If you haven't trained in this manner before, you might want to make it a 3-day per week routine. To do so, drop the Sunday workout, move Tuesday's to Monday, and move Thursday's to Wednesday. That way you have at least 1 day off between all training sessions and 2 days off before the main squat/bench day.

@Vermillion-Rx @bozza

The types of women you're describing get off on being a tease and while I can't fully rationalize it myself, the closest I've come;

They get the benfits of being seen with, being courted by and just the over all fun/experience of a top tier male without the side effect of opening their legs.

On top of that, they're probably aware, we're all sexual deviants making this her way of playing the players.

It's odd to us because we'd expect similar behavior from her for free meals from Beta Bucks Billy, but how dare she do it to Chads.

The only real way I've found to invest energy into these types of girls and come out ahead is to flip the script.

Invite them out to events, but make sure she knows it's just as friends. Give her the dance, then walk away. Flirt with her but in a joking manner. No sexual undertone. No sexual energy. After all that’s what she expects.

At worst I end up with beautiful eye candy that can be used for pre-selection or she buzzes off on her own.

At best they're normally good for a ONS but at that point, if they're that good looking, I'd rather keep up the song and dance, not fucking them.

Some of my most reliable wing men were these types of women and doubt if the majority caught on to the game I was playing.

Though there was one stripper that stood out. Me and my boy both instinctively played the we're not sexually interested card and she knew it. Interesting gal.

She'd feed us pussy and we'd feed her betas to devour. What a beautiful year that was.

@Kloi

I'm having trouble understanding what you mean by:

The good news is that in old age there's a psychological switch,

It refers to the endgame. You never really stop desiring new and young women, but it stops being that red haze of lust, it's easier to manage.

Now it might last one or two nights and I'm right back at it regardless of her feelings about it.

Now I'm the one who lost you. In a Long Term Relationship there will be fluctuation of the sexual activity, if that's what you refer to. It's normal to have days, sometimes if there are other pressing issues even weeks without sex, and then to resume.

I try not focusing on the negative what ifs

From your posts, you seem able to get a replacement girl easily. That's way ahead than most guys get to. That's your backup plan, taken care of, so you can focus on the other things in your life. It's as good as it gets...

@adam-l

I'm having trouble understanding what you mean by:

The good news is that in old age there's a psychological switch, and these issues feel much less urgent, and you feel much more content with much less. So, there's that.

As for thing one I have no issue with that up until a certain point in a LTR. In the past I have almost at some point (typically around 18 months) she starts to be my priority. Of course it always starts with an inch here, half an inch there but it adds up over time.

Though with each passing relationship it is easier to maintain, longer and with quicker come backs if for say I start missing out on physical activity, in the very first relationship it was over until we broke up. Now it might last one or two nights and I'm right back at it regardless of her feelings about it.

being always on the lookout for the inevitable fallout

You called it correctly its an issue I'm aware of. Being a prepare for the worst, be satisfied with anything but type of guy. It can be a real drag and I try not focusing on the negative what ifs of a relationship but to be blind to them would be far worse.

@Kloi

Two things.

First, although for us men, to be loved is our greatest desire, if only because it never really happens, we must have a mission greater than simply that. So that the love of a woman is relegated to the background.

How do you do that? In a sense, it's a faux "fake it till you make it". Some men do it "naturally", they are perpetually enthused by the new little project, some others "autistically" stick to greater projects, and, truth is, much of humanity's advancement is because of this. In any case, you don't really ever "make it" (that's why I say faux), because the need to be loved is never extinguished. The good news is that in old age there's a psychological switch, and these issues feel much less urgent, and you feel much more content with much less. So, there's that.

Second thing: being always on the lookout for the inevitable fallout is, obviously, not a pleasant or feasible strategy. What you can do, instead, is decide your hard limits, and let go within these limits. Maybe you'll never marry. Maybe you'll never give her children. Maybe you'll always keep separate finances. Things like that.

In the end of the day, getting all of our desires met is more a curse than a blessing, so we have to embrace the lack.