2mo ago  Women Behaving Badly

@Problematic_Browser

You may be right, but I think it hinges on whether she was authorized to be there. If it was in the publicly accessible portion of a public building during business hours, she can’t be trespassed unless she was breaking some law. Her mere presence isn’t a crime, and whether the employees want her there or not is legally irrelevant. That’s simply not their call to make, and the police are only empowered to enforce actual laws… not office policies or the personal preferences of public servants.

I think the whole thing hinges on that. If she was not allowed to be there, the whole mess was probably legal, although the cops were still douchebags who should have tried to de-escalate rather than get butthurt when a mere citizen didn’t instantly genuflect to “Mah uh-THOR-i- Tay.”

If she WAS allowed to be there, all the charges are likely to be dropped and she may end up with a tidy settlement paid by the local taxpayers.

Mind you, I’m not defending her. I stipulated that she’s an idiot, and did her fair share of escalation, but it shouldn’t be up to the citizen to be the one who has to calm the cops down when their little egos get bruised.

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2mo ago  Women Behaving Badly

@lurkerhasarisen

And, as an aside, obstruction is a secondary charge and requires the prosecution to demonstrate

-There was a legal or government proceeding that could be obstructed

-There is a clear link between the attempts to obstruct and the proceedings

-The defendant was aware of this link.

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2mo ago  The Hub

@Typo-MAGAshiv

"Avoid the unhappy and unlucky."

Most people have two categories of problems:

  1. Problems of their own making

  2. Problems they can solve with some effort

Regardless of the type, nobody wants to fucking hear it. If you're the type to always share your troubles, people will find you exhausting.

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2mo ago  The Hub

@Problematic_Browser Think about this. How can an EO apply to the president when only the president can draft an EO that contradicts it? He would be bound by the EO and would find himself unable to draft a conflicting EO that contradicts it, lest he be in violation of his previous EO.

Could you imagine such a hamstrung idea?

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2mo ago  The Hub

@RPU_mike

You are Brandolini's law made manifest.

I'm not going to waste any more time putting my facts against your feelings.

2mo ago  The Hub

@redpillschool

Not confused.

EO even apply to the president unless they are deemed illegal or overturned.

In this specific case, the EO made it clear who can declassify a classified document.

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2mo ago  The Hub
Moderator

@Problematic_Browser Hubris indeed. No room to take the intellectual high ground when you don't even read or comprehend your own sources, you fool.

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2mo ago  The Hub

@RPU_mike

Only a fool rules our the possibility that they could be wrong.

Imagine the hubris it takes to think you have perfect knowledge.

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2mo ago  The Hub

@Problematic_Browser You still seem quite confused about what an executive order is.

It's the Chief Executive of the executive branch of govt, giving orders to those who work under him.

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2mo ago  The Hub

@redpillschool

An EO can be revoked amended, modified, etc. yes.

But it cannot be simply ignored.

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