I don't believe I can convince anyone holding a different opinion at this round. I believe he'll remember the arguments on the next one.
I don't know about others here, I know there's a few that are old enough for this to be the next one at least two or three times over, and yet... Well I suppose it's not about giving up, but going back to the documentary from earlier, I was filled with a deep melancholy when it showed the occupy wallstreet movement. That was, perhaps, the last time a unified movement might have taken place.
Everyone and their opinions are deeply siloed off, to the extent that facts from outside the silo are not permitted.
But hey, what do I know? Maybe it'll all come good and something will get through.
@Lionsmane8 I'm discussing in good faith despite having diametrically opposed opinions in this. I don't believe I can convince anyone holding a different opinion at this round. I believe he'll remember the arguments on the next one.
At the very least, I hope there'll be a next one... and that people will back off from a WW3, once it's crystal clear that there is where we're heading.
Women (hysterics) don't connect to reality directly. They need a man to give meaning (frame). And that's a Tually such a luxurious thing to have. You remain a child for all your life.
That's the luxury the elite unwittingly grab for. Being freed from the practical issues of survival, they lose their grasp of reality. Then, just as a borderline who cuts herself in order to feel connection and relieve the existential dread, they go villain and do ranbom abusive things on their subjects.
That is, beside the "classical-marxist" analyses about profit etc, there are deeper psychological factor at play for the shit show we are witnessing.
And the bad thing is not only we are unlucky to be caught in the decline phase of the cycle, but that now there are neuclears.
This is the reason many have envisioned a wipe-out of the human species. These dynamics are built-in in the human species (probably as an evolved mechanism of expansion, from when the earth was still big enough: men saw the shit-show and moved to pristine lands).
Just as you can't really convince a woman it's for her children's best interests to be loving towards her husband, you can't convince the elite to not be assholes.
Read More@adam-l Very interesting. Are these not pathologies though? I wouldn't expect a majority or even a significant minority, enough to destabilise the function of reality, to exist. Heck, maybe I'm wrong and to be well adjusted is the aberration? Which I suppose is answered by
They live an animalistic existence, following their "heart" (instincts), and they form the bulk of the followers of the perverse, psychopathic leaders.
this?
I dunno if you're familiar with the term min/maxing, but it speaks to the method of optimisation, mostly used in video games, where the greater scope of the game is sidelined for the results of the game. Trim away the fat, the experience and the process and hasten the result or reward. It seems society has been doing that to itself for some time, to a fault.
Read More@adam-l Just watched it, good recommendation. I had been anticipating the 9/11 and subsequent war on terror segment. Hearing Bush and Blair again in those clips makes me even more exhausted to hear the new faces of those exact same political parties saying the exact same words - but what makes it worse is that the exact same people are hearing them and going along with it again.
Well anyway, the rest of the documentary is pretty fascinating. I'm fairly disconcerted at the idea of reality having peeled off into being entirely fake and gay, and it points to my wider frustration with conversations or efforts to truth seek - because of course you've first got to establish which sandbox you're playing in, the real or the fake and gay, and then you have to figure out if whom you're interacting with is operating in the real or the fake and gay, and if it's the latter then it is entirely a waste of time... worse still, you could be occupying what you think ought to be real only to find out it's been coopted and is actually now fake and gay.
I do wonder what sets someone apart from the fake and gay long enough to say "hey wait a minute" - and for others to blithely accept it.
Another interesting point was the Aladdin predictive algorithm. I'd not heard of that before and I do wonder what it's capabilities are outside of the market context... but then I guess he who controls the spice markets, controls the universe world.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=to72IJzQT5k
Read More@Vermillion-Rx the US couldn't even score a clear victory in Afghanistan ffs. Iran is 90 million...
Will Iran probably be defeated? Yes.
Will the US emerge victorious? Highly unlikely.
Will Trump have fun on the way? Definitely!
I Just watched the HyperNormalization documentary. It's an interesting viewing, connecting the wars and policies of the past few decades. It highlights the descent of ideologies and the emergence of... what we have now.
His biggest problem is not getting laid. It's getting laid without being fucked.
Maybe you can gift him my book. It's suitable for those coming from a liberal background.
Another good option is The tactical guide to women, by S. T. Smith.
See how he reacts to this introductory stuff, and see where you can go from there.
It was 1921 when Einstein was taken aback from the gender dynamics he witnesses in the US. "Women rule here".
And where women rule, you have a Macbeth script: a neverending push for more, by the lady.
The more women are considered agentic, the more their natural aggressiveness consumes society.