@Lionsmane8 Talk to everyone. Talk to all the girls. Game them all a bit...... take it further if you think it's worth it.
You are talking like you're not being sociable as a matter of habit, and have this daunting "gotta make it work" journey ahead of you.
How well do these tactics of escalation lead to a long-term relationship?
Much better than Lets Just Be Friends.
Female long term relationships are based on sex, just like they are for you. ESPECIALLY the type of long term relationship that you want, which has a strong sexual component.
However..... is the reason that you want a LTR because you suck with girls and you want an easy way? The reason I ask is that this is a losing strategy, and she knows it and will take advantage of it.
I need to be able to have a nice conversation with a girl first and foremost if I want to be attracted to her
Sure, and you have a nice conversation when she is motivated, and she's motivated when she wants you.
I just don't feel the need to push for sex because I'm not motivated by it.
You might not be motivated by sex, but she is. Hence "let's just be friends" when you don't try to fuck her.
I understand that I need to make the date feel more "romantic",
No.
More SEXUAL.
but how much of an LTR should be purely sexual attraction, and how much should be an actual genuine connection of interests with the person?
You'd be amazed how well connected your interests can be if there is a strong sexual attraction.
I have read the sidebar and it always made these relationships seem super shallow if done that way.
More shallow than "Lets Just Be Friends" ?
Read MoreDivorce may be better than marriage, but single beats both.
That you of all people commented suggests the opposite.
+ Probably most married men would happily divorce in a second, were it not for the kids.
Divorce, the vast majority initiated by the woman, is her attempt to steal her kids' childhood, in order for her to remain the eternal child. And it practically performs the cardinal sin of child abuse, i.e. turning them from protected into protectors of the mother. Emotional protectors, and often material as well.
Parentification.
I know it's not my looks, or the date itself
Actually it was the date itself.
You took no risks, you didn't make it sexual. She gets a "just friends" vibe.
Look, this style of "I take you where you want to go and listen to you like a brother" dating is EASY.... and because of that it gets you NOWHERE.
You need to be prepared to burn her friendship and the entire date to the ground in exchange for the possibility of it leading to sex. If you don't do that, she'll take friendship because she wants to fuck 1-2 hot guys and have as many orbiters as possible. If you put yourself in the orbiter category (which you did, admit it), then she'll accept that.
I actually think this one is salvageable.... but you need to not accept friendship and on the next date she should spend the entire time together fearing for the safety of her vagina.
It had to have been either me being too platonic
yes, 100% platonic which is bad.
I wasn't very energetic
low key can work
but I was super invested in our conversations
this is terrible
and it was a great talk.
Great by what metric? This was TERRIBLE for you..... you've got yourself a female friend to lead you on and waste hours of your precious time on.
Please give me some advice if you can
Right.
Physically escalate.... tease her..... be the MAN. TAKE RISKS.
Touch her.... move away..... try to fucking kiss her.
Lover or brother, your choice.
Read MoreProbably most married men would happily divorce in a second, were it not for the kids.
Divorce, the vast majority initiated by the woman, is her attempt to steal her kids' childhood, in order for her to remain the eternal child. And it practically performs the cardinal sin of child abuse, i.e. turning them from protected into protectors of the mother. Emotional protectors, and often material as well.
@carnold03 Divorce may be better than marriage, but single beats both.
@kevin32 Because it's fiction.
There are COUNTLESS examples of movie clips that illustrate TRP principles, but there is little learning there.
Would you write a science paper by studying Star Trek?
@Vermillion-Rx You should have your own line of Vermillion-Endorsed erection pills.
Imagine the taglines!
MILFs made me flaccid, Viagra fixed it
Viagra is so good, now I no longer need to find attractive girls
etc.
;)
@Vermillion-Rx Back now........ reaching for my ban hammer!