@First-light Israel runs tightly refined DARVO game at the Nation-State level. Sad that virtually all of the older/stronger/"better" nation states of the world default to playing right into it.

I mean, Mossad and AIPAC successfully embedded their tentacles into the highest levels of US Government, strongly compelling or incentivizing pro-Israel choices at every important step. But, average citizens are free to think and do as they please, yet so many of them default to going all-in on the Hasbara account of events without ever spending a moment's thought on the merits of alternative explanations and pathways.

@Vermillion-Rx

All they had to do was release the hostages

For a community whose FOUNDATIONAL principles include seeing through manipulative cultural narratives, groupthink, avoidance of "getting cucked", etc,

It always amazes me to see how quickly the whole lot of it gets chucked right out the window when it comes to Israel, and also MAGA.

@MentORPHEUS That was the second gulf war, not the first. We did actually find WMDs there the second time. No one cared because at that point it made no difference and, well, their presence seemed more due to laziness and mismanagement than an actual weapons program.

@Vermillion-Rx The IAEA is far more specialized and transparent than the WHO

I want to see what the US intelligence is before i comment

You would have been wise to wrap the post after this sentence, instead of negating it by vaguely lumping completely different types of organizations together and assuming without offering specific and current/relevant evidence the presumption that the IAEA is nothing but corrupt.

@Vermillion-Rx

Half of the people on here were saying there was going to be world war III. What has happened instead has been everyone distancing themselves from Iran

That it hasn't yet broken into a multi-nation hot war YET, does not negate the extremely dangerous brinkmanship in play.

Are you aware that:

Pakistan vowed to use one of their nuclear bombs on Israel, if ANYONE uses a nuclear bomb on Iran?

China asserted that they stand with Iran

Russia asserted the same, and offered Iran a missile defense system which Iran interestingly turned down for the time being?

This trope of "Iran has no friends or allies, they will just fizzle out in like 48 hours" really amounts to US and Zionist propaganda and cope.

@Lionsmane8

This is actually going easy on them. Wait till Iran lays out the case that the IAEA got infiltrated by Mossad, which used the good faith participation of Iran to then murder their top nuclear scientists.

@Vermillion-Rx

these international agencies are often agenda driven and have soft influence

Often??? Tell us what the track record of the IAEA has been over the last several decades, and name just one case where you have proof that their judgement or performance has been proven incompetent, much less biased and agenda-driven.

Otherwise, just cut to the chase and admit you just spouted out a bunch of partisan word salad without a scintilla of evidence to back it up.

@MentORPHEUS

including the fact that Iran was willfully complying with the terms of the deal and openly showing that they were not enriching uranium beyond what was needed for their power generating reactors and for medical isotopes [emphasis added]

Not really. Secretary of State Rubio addresses that and other things in here:

youtu.be/zfuTysNbjDI?si=i2p11X-1Ym3BRs4M

It seems there's a lot that no one on here knew.

@Typo-MAGAshiv OK fair enough, I'm incorrect that Obama's peace prize got awarded FOR the nuclear deal.

Everything else I've said about it stands, including the fact that Iran was willfully complying with the terms of the deal and openly showing that they were not enriching uranium beyond what was needed for their power generating reactors and for medical isotopes. (Iran has a very advanced medical system by modern standards.)