MentORPHEUS

15 hours ago  The Dark Winter

@SeasonedRP The idea peaked by the 60s in academia, though in typical fashion Pop Culture kept bringing it up in lay articles in a distribution curve lagging academic press by more than a decade. By the 1980s, the talk of provoking an ice age was not that it would come due to pollution, but in the form of nuclear winter.

I'd like to hear exactly WHAT show Carl Sagan "did about it," and when. I don't believe his predictions on a global cooling event match the general claim we're discussing, nor do they fit your timeline.

You also dismissed that aerosols and particulates were a cooling problem without evidence, when I provided before and after pictures of this pollution blocking light across a distance of mere city blocks.

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MentORPHEUS

20 hours ago  The Dark Winter

@SeasonedRP Not sure about you, but I can REMEMBER news, current events, and pop culture back to the early-mid 70s. By the late 70s, it was spoken of in the past tense. "They USED TO say we were going to cause another ice age..." The mainstream environmental movement had long since "moved on" and threat of causing a new ice age was no longer on their radar. The big environmental issues of the later 70s were leaded gas which finally got banned (with immediate measurable results and short + long term benefits), deforestation was a distant second, but at least in Southern California, water was the most talked about issue in environmentalism.

Biggest focal point was the LA Aqueduct drawing so much water from the Owens Valley that Mono Lake dropped to the point where a land bridge developed to the island where a majority of 1000+ miles of the Pacific Coast's seagull population bred over winter, allowing predators to decimate their population despite a shitty fence built. One of my memories from earliest childhood was every year watching an atmospheric river of seagulls migrating over where we lived, where they turned inland from the coast. For weeks, it was a constant stream of seagulls flying by, in groups and formations but making a constant unending stream 20 seagulls wide from horizon to horizon. Then one year they stopped, and never in the decades since have I seen this migration big enough to notice at all. That and the snail darter, whose giant habitat's salinity became unlivable to them due to the majority of the flow of a multi-river system's delta getting diverted by humans.

Grade school kids would egg on the people ahead of them at the drinking fountain with a bitchy, "Save some for the fish, maaan!" Save the forests and save water were the second and first biggest environmental issues throughout the mid-late 70s. These were talked about ALL THE TIME when "the environment" came up in discussion.

"There's GOING to be an ice age!" was on NOBODY'S lips in the mid to late 70s and beyond. That is my direct memory, growing up in a fairly affluent and environmentally conscious area where this stuff got talked about.

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MentORPHEUS

22 hours ago  The Public Square

@WaveGod- Success is the outcome of many iterated try-fail-analyze-improve cycles. Get out in the field and talk and interact with women. Eventually you come to find they aren't mystical creatures that are difficult or challenging to deal with and a lot of the "problems" were in your own head.

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MentORPHEUS

23 hours ago  The Dark Winter

@lurkerhasarisen

I'm old enough to remember when global cooling was imminent. It was - as everyone "knew" at the time - SETTLED SCIENCE.

What everyone who "discovers" this over and over never investigates deeply enough (at all) to find global cooling actually was an imminent threat that became a SOLVED PROBLEM through applied technology.

The first generations of "smokestack industries" as well as distributed across millions of individual users, pumped out MASSIVE quantities of aerosol and particulates as a byproduct of their operations. It became unbearably bad during the postwar boom times, so work was under way to clean up the emissions of large scale industries. A vignette of "how bad" particulate pollution got, in the outskirts of London, the population of gypsy moths rapidly evolved from white to black, as they hung out on bright white birch tree trunks and became easy pickings for predators when these turned black from pollution. In later decades when the particulate emissions were minimized, the moth population became white again along with the birch trees way out in the countryside.

Removing the aerosols was technically relatively easy, and with them went their effect of blocking insolation and developing process of global cooling. What was NOT easy or urgent to remove was the invisible carbon dioxide. Without a heavy particulate and aerosol load in the atmosphere balancing it and blocking heat, CO2 was now alone in its effect of trapping more of the heat coming in from the sun.

In summary: "Global Cooling" wasn't an arbitrary made-up threat to control the population (somehow...) that got arbitrarily switched to a different false narrative of global warming. "Global cooling" was an actual, active process that humans SOLVED, and studies etc of the effect petered out completely by the early 70s because by then the underlying cause had been addressed, and the results in clean, clear air were obvious to literally everyone who had lived through the worst smog days in the 50s.

Literally every time I've brought this up over the decades, the people who brought the issue up go silent without a rebuttal, only to uncritically spout a different energy-industry-fellating propaganda piece the next time they post. Just once I'd like to see ANY kind of earnest critique of what I just wrote, if one exists.

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MentORPHEUS

23 hours ago  The Public Square

On both Sunday and Monday that I observed, the Flying J truck stop in Lebec, CA ran OUT of diesel for part of the day. All dozen fuel lanes coned off, and the lot extra full of parked trucks waiting. Finally late in the afternoon both days a double tanker arrived and they were selling again. I've never witnessed this in the 5 years I've owned property near there.

carnold03

about a day ago  Wallstreet Bets

@slutmagazine

worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/inflation-rate-by-country

Weirdly Japan has almost no inflation. How can this be explained? @destraht @TiberiusBravo87 @Antelope @MentORPHEUS @carnold03 @SeasonedRP

What are you studying in college/university that you lack the time to explore other topics of interest?

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slutmagazine

about a day ago  Wallstreet Bets
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slutmagazine

about a day ago  The Dark Winter

@MentORPHEUS

considered Russia a failed superpower that couldn't handle their own shit much less stand up to the entire world once again.

It's part of the narrative of finally defeating the evil empire. You can't claim a great victory of your enemy just rises again in a couple of decades.

adam-l

2 days ago  The Public Square

@MentORPHEUS

I can understand the guy. He's David Buss, he has been doing pioneering research in evopsych for decades, and here he is, in the climate of Fear and Misery of the Third Reich Feminism, trying to balance between having a carrier, leading a field, telling the truth, and not being canceled by either side. Not an easy task. It is understandable that he buckled.

That doesn't mean he's beyond criticism, though. After all, there are scientists like Roy Baumeister that have chosen the other side, of telling hard truths, accepting the risk.

adam-l

2 days ago  The Public Square

@MentORPHEUS I've read the first hcapters only. I don't know if he did the titling or the publisher, but his content is definitely biased. Poor women get exploited by bad men - not that they actually go after them etc etc.

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