@Red_dead

Texting strategy is wrong?

First and foremost im well aware of the only text for logistics but is there any nuance to texting?

For example I lose a lot of girls on the first one or two texts and I don’t have anything to compare it to in terms of response rate, idk if its me or normal. Almost all of these girls who I’ve texted have already agreed to a date.

I literally just say hey it x from so and so where we met. They reply whats I up i give a short answer about what im doing ask hbu and then 3-4 texts having a convo then confirm the plans.

But I lose so many girls simply by saying im doing x wbu. I dont know if im being vague or boring or whatever. I recently read OmLaLa post about texting and saying as few words as possible, but im thinking nowadays girls are so overstimulated that they cant keep there attention on anything that isnt entertaining them.

Is there any merit in sending a more interesting text and then after rapport toning it down.Im not sure if this is just part of the churn. I’ve kind of become jaded now assuming they just met a guy they like better but its just such a dropoff I assume this is the result of infinite options on their end.

Do yall ever give second chances as well as I gain more experience Ive kinda stopped trying again and just pursue a diff girl.

Edit: Title is referring to my texting strategy not overall texting strategy

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Study the book. Use it to help inform your approach going forward. Any further input from us until you've actually done this and seen positive results would be a waste of our time and yours.

The suggestion you refrain from texting is solid practical advice. Others already explained why you should limit texting females to logistics for dates, but you're clearly determined to do your own thing. I doubt it will deliver all the positive outcomes you maybe seeking, but it's your life to live. Best of luck to you out there.

@Red_dead

Whats the appropriate response to a busy text If one at all?

Went on two dates with this girl since the beginning she always responded like 3 days later to any of my texts didnt matter when I responded. Honestly it didnt even bother me because I would forget she existed until she responded again. But anyways first date drinks at a wine bar we kissed. She gave me some spheil unprovoked about how she sucks at texting whatever. planned another date, she responds day of proposing aleternative, she comes over I cook her dinner, we makeout and i take her shirt off, she gives me lmr, we continue and then more lmr and she leaves. Same shit this week she responds to me today saying she's getting dinner with a friend after I invited her over to watch a movie and she knows we made plans td(which is news to me tbh). Does this warrant a response or next?

we're both leaving the city in a month so I assumed she just wanted a hook up tbh.

@Red_dead

Can’t get from sex to plate and second dates?

I’ve been having sex but I can’t get past the sex phase to plating a girl, or get from 1st to second date.

I’ve been meeting a ton of women through dating apps, a lot of these were preemptive since I hadnt fully moved to a new city. I’m not against approaching I just have been extremely busy with other life obligations so this was the best option in the interim until I got settled.

Most of these never reach the second date. Tbh im not sure what im doing, im not awkward I have a pretty cool life stories to share I let the girl talk.

To be fair most of these dates do go well it seems more something from the first to the second date im fucking up.

The first two I went on I think I fucked up because I mentioned that I was quitting my job and both seemed to have a negative reaction even though I had talked to about it before with one and she seemed to be suprised when i mentioned it

Once I stopped mentioning this the dates got better. I kissed closed one, had sex with two. The other girl fizzled out but tbh I had no desire to do anything with so I was fine with that.

I texted the kiss close asking what she was doing and she responded “hopefully hanging out with you” then deleted it lol but i saw and playfully joked. Then a couple days later she just went dead, responded she was busy with no alternative then stopped answering.

Of two I had sex with one I don’t want to see again, the other is barely responding, again giving wishy answers no alternative dates for plans.

I started approaching irl and plan on joining a couple clubs kind of sick of the online thing even though im getting a lot of matches. I approached a couple girls today at the grocery store and coffee shop.

Edit: oh I forgot to mention im getting a ton of numbers through the apps but most don’t even respond. I wait a couple days sometimes a week usually because I forget and am busy with work, any advice on this?

Study the book. Your online profile should've already given those females some basic info about yourself. When taking these females out on dates, it's best to keep them talking about themselves, because you need to confirm if the person in front of you is consistent with the image of them you've imagined based on their profile. Moreover, if she's on an actual date with you, you need to interview them to decide if they're worth your time and energy, or just a bang and bounce.

If talking about yourself, specifically about your work-life with females kills their interest in you, then you're going to need to stop talking about your work-life with females. You should look into breaking up your free-time by exploring hobbies to settle on those which interest you and finding real-life face-to-face male acquaintances to socialize with.

@Red_dead

Lack of communication?

One of my plates is mad about lack of communication. In her defense I did not communicate a couple of big things well to her for my own solid reasons and now she’s gotten really mad.

She texted me about 5 paragraphs about how I don’t communicate and she always has to double text. I told her im literally busy which is true and I don’t have time to respond to texts like I used to.

She just keeps repeating it that im communicated badly. This initially started when I ignored her when she asked about my project… that I haven’t told anyone about, seems like it was pent up.

Anyways she texted another 5 long paragraphs earlier today saying she doesn’t know if its the right time to make seeing each other work, followed by a paragraph stating things havent been the same .

I don’t think dare will work in this situation. Or if anything.

Why care? She's a plate, you've got others. That you've not shared what, if any, critical feedback regarding how your communication skills were lacking in her short essays suggests that she's doesn't value either your time or her own. It's not like you're married or raising kids together, she should've just ghosted you if she wasn't enjoying her time with you.

@Red_dead

What to do about age gap judgements?

I recently moved in with my childhood best friends, among my friend groups while they are the least social I am probably the closest with them. I initially had my reservations but it was our only chance to live together and only way I could afford to move to a new city. Its honestly not going to great.

Neither live in the real world as in both have 0 ambitions or real world experiences and one skates by on his families money drifting from one hobby to the next.

I'm constantly getting in arguments with them about real world stuff I've actually experienced and one of which today was age gaps. One of my friends plates admitted she dated a late 20s guy when she was 18 and now my friend seems to have taken the opinon that this is bad going as far to say he couldnt be friends with anyone who would do that.

I was busy working so I didnt even have time to argue it, but my question is basically how do you deal with the constant age gap judging? It seems to be a hot topic nowadays. My other friend groups have all said it too.

I live near a huge college campus and a ton of the girls I meet are younger. Is it worth to have to constantly field questions and judgements from everyone. My parents actually have a large gap, but no one cared in their generation. Whats the best way to combat this?

I don't see how you benefit from joining the arguments of the guys you're rooming with. The best way you can both help your friends and thank them for letting you stay with them is to not get drawn into their efforts to remain impotent regarding their lives and instead use that energy to focus yourself onto more fulfilling things.

If you've got no ideas, I'd suggest spending time and energy on addressing the situation that has led to you rooming with your reality impaired friends. Work on paying off any outstanding debts, building up your savings, learning more marketable trade skills, locating a new place of your own to move to later, and spend time making new acquaintances so you're not limited to the ones you presently have. Maybe spend some of that time reading useful books, starting with this one suggested a few months ago. Then should they ask you how you came to achieve what they dismissed as impossible, just share the books you read, and give them encouragement to study, practice, and maintain their momentum.

@Red_dead

How to reengage?

Saw a girl who was into me four years ago that I met through a close friend. She recently just broke up with her ex.

I was running late and didn't put my contacts in and she had a completely different hairstyle literally didn't recognize her and reintroduced myself like a dumbass and it took me a sec to register that I knew her.

We briefly "talked" 4 yrs ago and last message I have is a dm of us scheduling drinks and her giving me her number but I can't remember what happened after that and why it didnt work out.

She seemed super horny and like she was looking for dick. I only talked to her briefly during the night but she never seemed super interested, but I kept catching her looking over and she was standing around me the whole night, especially when I was talking to other girls and when we were dancing.

Her closest girl friend at the party was really excited and thinks I should go for it, I kinda don't want to embarrass myself in front of my friends, she's close friends with him. How do I reengage?

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

@Red_dead

How does Onlyfans affect the Sexual Marketplace?

I'm kind of curious about people's thoughts on only fans, I was rereading the misandry bubble and it got me thinking. Porn overall isn't necessarily bad for us since most men will flock to it as easy comfort, leaving more women available. But only fans is different in that now even fairly lazy women can more than support themselves and their lavish lifestyles based on onlyfans income.

Of course, this is assuming they manage their money well. But for the ones who are making 6figs plus now they don't need as much resources from men, and expect an even higher standard, especially with increased validation. On the other hand I'm sure a lot of these women aren't thinking about the future when they get old and their subs slow and now no man will marry them.

Will it be a net negative or positive to Men, and when I say Men I mean Red Pilled ones? I've already seen the negative effects on the majority.

My only thought is that Onlyfans, and similar websites, exist simply as money laundering fronts for intelligence agencies and international organized crime while masquerading as a crowdfunded amateur porn site. The majority of people trying to make money through it are morons too stupid to understand that they'll never get rich that way let alone make enough for more than bus fare. The people who're receiving big time cash are actors working for intelligence agencies and organized crime groups using the site as a means through which they can discretely launder and transmit money around the world. At this point, anyone who believes otherwise shouldn't be mocked and derided, but pitied.