@deeplydisturbed Would like to add entitled to that list.
You think principles of TRP were recently invented
We're getting to "is math discovered or invented" territory. The RP is based on observation and inference of conclusions. The fact that nobody before us was able to observe female nature on such massive scale (via few hundred thousand men "comparing notes" in one place) doesn't mean female/male nature didn't exist before. This in turn leads to the conclusion that somewhere along the line someone, without a doubt, figured this out. But that in turn leads us to asking - what was done with that actual, true RP (modern, r/TRP like) understanding? Apparently nothing b/c for last few thousand years we we operated on "physically restrict your woman from being able to cheat" and we know it doesn't work at all b/c women still cheat after thousand years of being told not to and being physically restricted from doing so.
One could infer from our current experience a reverse scenario. If we knew true RP principles hundreds or thousand years ago it stands to reason that if that knowledge was common, the women's objections to spreading it would be also common - as they are today. If its the same RP knowledge b/c of same female nature, thus the same reaction is expected. But so far, there is no widespread historical or arecheological evidence of that happening, just as there is no evidence of true (the same as we have on r/TRP and the core tenets mentioned in this thread) RP knowledge among men.
The reason for restrictions on women historically is because leaders did understand those TRP principles.
Knowing that women cheat is not understanding why women cheat.
Telling a woman "don't cheat or else" is not understanding why women cheat.
Understanding why they cheat is understanding.
Understanding how to make her not want to cheat on you is understanding.
Understanding how and why attraction works is understanding.
Understanding what game is is understanding.
There a discipline called criminology. Can you imagine calling it "understanding" if their message would be "people steal" and nobody ever managed to figure out why people steal? Can you imagine humans not understanding the concept of monetary value and the desire to take it from others? "We have no idea why people steal from others". Can you imagine the criminologists answering "we have no idea what you can personally do do dissuade stealing from you"? Could you call this discipline criminology if it explained nothing and provided no effective solutions?
Read More@JamesSkepp You think principles of TRP were recently invented and no one in prior generations knew them? The reason for restrictions on women historically is because leaders did understand those TRP principles. What's the saying, every generation thinks it invented sex.
@carnold03 That's interesting. I create full blown arguments and dialogue between two versions of myself. I basically debate the cause of the issue. Very helpful personally
i'm genuinely trying to have a discussion
No, you don't. You're here to proselytize and you can't even handle slight pushback. You want to have a "discussion" in which people agree with you or at least "agree do disagree" so you don't have do respond to criticism in any meaningful way, so you can go back to proselytizing to other prospects.
Also I don't like your tone
I see you clearly possess the mental and emotional strength and resilience to handle multiple women, your resilience clearly shows why one should follow you in real life.
Anyway.
I don't like the fact that a bunch of ideologically driven guys decided to tell me how am I supposed to live my life - b/c that's what this entire discussion boils down to.
Every ideology, especially based on group identity boils down to it: we know better b/c we read The Book(TM) and we will tell you how to live and if you don't embrace it we will force it upon you. Christians did it, Muslims do it, Jews do it, left does it, right does it, feminist do, it alphabet genders do it, even a guy that are supposed to be on our, anti-MSM side, does it too. The only difference is the kind of book you all read.
It all starts with "I'm not here to tell you what to do, i just want to talk" and moves to "why are you resisting and pushing back on our ideology" and ends up with "if they wont accept it willingly, we will force them to accept it - THEY left us no choice".
Read MoreIf Americans were to be told who was actually behind 911, and who sponsored and promoted the "Patriot" Act, and who made billions of dollars from that event and what has come since, they would despise the person who told them more than the sociopaths who did the bad things.
Just like a woman would.
That is modern America. You can do whatever you wish to anyone - rape, murder, torture, genocide, trans-ideology, even fucking child rape - and that is ALL good.
The worst thing you can be is the person who calls this out.
Even on a forum like this, you are going to get hate from the indoctrinated.
And that is why the left keeps winning. We just cannot get our shit together and we cannot see what is being done to us on the daily.
I am not a religious man, but I can also say that no Muslim has EVER ONCE done me wrong. But I can write a book about Feminists and the shit I have suffered from that mess. Look at ALL of the early most prominent feminists and you tell me what pattern you see.
In fact - do NOT point out that pattern. It will get us shut down.
Read More@JamesSkepp Bro, honestly you have no idea what i am talking about. You are not hearing me. Also I don't like your tone, i'm genuinely trying to have a discussion whereas you are intent on throwing shit and trying to prove something. Let's just end it there, i really don't feel like sinking to that level. Anytime you are willing to have a civil discussion and actually listen to what i am trying to say (rather than just hearing what you want to hear) you're welcome.
Women cheating and getting punished for that is not core RP tenet. Nor does this explain anything to anyone. Morover, going by general Islam age, you've been stoning them for 1200 years and they still haven't stop cheating on you. Clearly the problem must lie with the type of stones you're using not the methodology and clearly 1200 years is not enough to figure that out.
You can invent the best ideology in the world and you won't be able to do anything without resources, technology and strategy. Expansionism (which Islam boils down to) isn't a strategy plan, it's an ideology of "I want this". 100% of people, institutions and ideologies want something, 99% of them fail to get it, 99% of cases is b/c they lack resources to do so.
As someone from Islamic world you're familiar with the fact that you guys are governed by select few which usually are an borderline tyrannic in nature, most often a warlord-wannabe or prince-wannabe, often both - which means he tells you how you're gonna live or you get the 9mm ideology adjustment. This boils down to the fact that neither you nor any woman has ANY say whatsoever in anything. This is PERVASIVE and dominant form of governance present in Middle Ease and most of Africa for decades and centuries depending on exact region. Your argument boils down to "no woman will ever vote Democrat here or she will be beheaded" - so will you, but somehow that gets omitted. As you can see hard patriarchy doesn't solve societal problems, economic problems, crime, lack of development, corruption and so on.
As for "keeping women in check in the West" - after entirely too long discussion, your argument will boil down to "women should not have the right to vote b/c they voted in Democrats and I dont like their policies". I don't like Dems either but, regardless of how women got their voting rights (another long discussion), if you take away their right to vote b/c you don't like the result, what's stopping you from taking away another group's voting right? Florida's red state, its also a retirement state so why don't we restrict voting age to max 55, call it "cognitive decline of boomers". Or what's stopping me from taking away your vote (non-white) which was OVERWHELMINGLY (70-90% range) pro-Biden regardless of gender?
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