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Welcome to the 5th Gen Warfare Tribe.

Given that we are experiencing rapid changes in our culture, it made sense to have a place to track the populist movements / battles as they occur, and not necessarily under the banner of politics.

For instance, Gamergate, Occupy Wallstreet, Maga Movement, and now the Wallstreet bets have all been "battles" with something in common: They cross political lines and share a common, populist root.

Here we can talk about the greater culture war and discuss the big picture for players and actions.

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Vermillion-Rx
8h ago  5th Generation War

@Typo-MAGAshiv

I mean yeah there are plenty of examples of doing something, regretting it, and then warning people who haven't done that thing yet

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Typo-MAGAshiv
8h ago  5th Generation War

@Vermillion-Rx especially when discussing actions vs. consequences rather than moralizing and preaching.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
8h ago  5th Generation War

@Vermillion-Rx major apples and oranges. See my reply here.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
9h ago  5th Generation War

@adam-l

The idea is that you can have an idea about what's "right" or "ideal" but not apply it in your personal life

Therein lies the difference, and I can't believe you don't see it.

In the case of men who unplugged while married, we warn other men based on actions vs. consequences, pragmatic advice rather than anything about "right" or "ideal". It's similar to a guy who lost a hand swimming in crocodile infested waters warning others not to make the same mistake.

In fact, one of the biggest rules at both TRP and MRP is against moralizing. We discuss actions and consequences. "If you do this, here's what's most likely to happen."

None of us who are married are going to tell other men "it's objectively morally wrong to get married, so don't you dare do it".

On the other hand, Lennon, McCartney, Taylor Swift, Billie Eilish, Bernie Sanders, the Clintons, the Obamas, and other champaign socialists will preach to those of us who are working class how it's a moral imperative that we share our meager incomes with those who refuse to work, while sitting on vast fortunes and owning multiple houses and flying in private jets.

It's the worst kind of hypocrisy, and they're all pieces of shit.

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Vermillion-Rx
13h ago  5th Generation War

@adam-l

I don't know enough about lennon to really comment on that

I can see your point

I still think it's a bit apples and orange though

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SeasonedRP
8h ago  5th Generation War

@adam-l Those billionaires you mention who argued for systemic change conveniently wanted systemic change that wouldn't materially impact them but would impact those trying to get to their level. So yes, they were hypocrites. Headlines and mainstream news on such topics are never accurate, and are usually puff pieces planted by PR people.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
8h ago  5th Generation War

@Victor I used to think the same thing, but check out the various interviews with James Sexton on YouTube, especially those with Rollo.

He's been a divorce attorney in New York State for like 20 or 25 years.

He has never seen a judge overturn a prenup, whether it was one he drafted himself and defended during divorce, or one he tried to get overturned on behalf of a client during divorce.

They biggest thing is, don't spring it on her on the wedding day. Discuss it months in advance, advise her to get her own legal counsel, etc.

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Victor
20h ago  5th Generation War

@Typo-MAGAshiv I’ve always wondered why prenups are even a thing when they barely work. It’s like a fart in the wind. Completely useless, and it kinda stinks.

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Vermillion-Rx
15h ago  5th Generation War

@adam-l

It's unclear in the thread what your original point was since the only reply it spawned from was "as for me" and not discussion about marriage

Archwinger is also on his second marriage. So there is a lot of nuance to bring that up

What was your original point?

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Vermillion-Rx
17h ago  5th Generation War

@Victor

They aren't useless.

You:

1) need a very good prenup lawyer

2) it can't be so utterly good that a court perceives it as too unfair or triggers some kind of foolish 'duress' ruling (e.g. she FELT like she HAD to sign it or he wouldn't get married)

Courts are more likely to uphold prenups if a woman had legal representation when she signed it and you've covered your bases legally

The less it looks like she signed the paper without understanding it, the more likely courts are to uphold most of it

I know, it's fucking stupid that an adult woman can willingly sign a document and not have to follow the contract but you unfortunately have to take as many steps as possible to remove the court's infantilization of her out of the picture and demonstrate she knew exactly what she was doing

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Welcome to the 5th Gen Warfare Tribe.

Given that we are experiencing rapid changes in our culture, it made sense to have a place to track the populist movements / battles as they occur, and not necessarily under the banner of politics.

For instance, Gamergate, Occupy Wallstreet, Maga Movement, and now the Wallstreet bets have all been "battles" with something in common: They cross political lines and share a common, populist root.

Here we can talk about the greater culture war and discuss the big picture for players and actions.

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