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MentORPHEUS
4m ago  5th Generation War

@Stigma

What's the use in trying to differentiate political motives be it left, or right?

I don't see this sentiment in those reacting to Kirk's shooting. But this sudden onset disinterest apathy and weariness, I get all the time when asking pointed questions that people prove unwilling to answer.

Charlie Kirk's assassination was a very personal act of violence, based on a warped reality that Charlie was some ontological evil that any action, no matter how drastic, was justified against him.

What is your basis for "knowing" this and presenting it as fact?

It's not the alleged shooter's own words, as of an hour ago he has not confessed and is "not cooperating" with investigators.

It's not forensic evidence conclusively tying him to the shooting.

So, what basis do you have for "knowing" what you wrote above?

It's perfectly honorable to admit that yeah, I don't actually hold any supporting evidence and for now this is only conjecture.

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Bozza
17m ago  5th Generation War

@Stigma Nah I didn't go, I wasn't even aware it was happening.

But one of my close friends went and said it was good.

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Stigma
36m ago  5th Generation War

@Bozza Unfortunately not, I’d moved north the week prior. What about yourself?

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Bozza
1h ago  5th Generation War

@Stigma Did you go to the rally?

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Bozza
1h ago  5th Generation War

@WarnerBro If you aren't already familiar, take a look into Yanis Varoufakis' thesis of technofeudalism

He's very strongly on the left, but does put across some good ideas and debate. On this particular topic of technofeudalism I think he's bang on the mark.

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Bozza
1h ago  5th Generation War

@WarnerBro

These trends lead towards an IoT (Internet of Things) enabled lifestyle where neither the home nor the devices actually belong to the user — you will own nothing and will be happy with a LaaS (Life-as-a-Service) lifestyle.

IoT is one of those things that could be incredibly awesome - IF it was built on open protocols, open standards etc. in the same way the WWW is.

Of course, that's never going to happen and instead it'll just end up a dystopian clusterfuck and a massive missed opportunity.

    

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Bozza
1h ago  5th Generation War

@WarnerBro

You've already touched on what this is about - it's about power and control.

The internet is too powerful and too dangerous to be allowed to be kept the way it is for much longer.

And so they are taking steps to reign it in.

    

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Stigma
4h ago  5th Generation War

@First-light North east, on the line to Edinburgh as it were. I think this was between Peterborough and York.

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Stigma
4h ago  5th Generation War

@MentORPHEUS

Investigators are also working to interview many of the students who witnessed what happened to piece together how the school became the site of the 47th shooting that took place at a school in the United States so far this year – 24 of which were on college campuses and 23 on K-12 school grounds.

From the article I found on the school shooting you mentioned. What's the use in trying to differentiate political motives be it left, or right? I could bring one up, and then you could bring one up in retaliation, then me, then you... ad nauseam. Whatever causes children/teenagers/young adults to want to specifically shoot up their classmates is another topic and not one isolated to either 'side".

Charlie Kirk's assassination was a very personal act of violence, based on a warped reality that Charlie was some ontological evil that any action, no matter how drastic, was justified against him. That's what doesn't stand up to scrutiny. That he was some vicious fascist spreading hate and lies. You can disagree with the people holding Charlie's memory in high esteem if you want to, as ever there will be charlatans and chancers taking advantage of a situation. It's incumbent on right minded individuals to discern between the well meaning and the grifters.

I've no interest in having to answer for the chancers because I made a sympathetic post to Charlie, as I don't expect you to have to answer for every cackling demon that laughed at the assassination.

My question to you is, how many cases of violence perpetrated by individuals who believe they are attacking nazis or fascists have to take place before there is a problem? My answer is, one. One assassination in front of his family with those specific engravings on those bullets tells me the rhetoric has gone too far.

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First-light
4h ago  5th Generation War

@Stigma South east? Its all green and pleasant any way once one gets out of the cities.

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Given that we are experiencing rapid changes in our culture, it made sense to have a place to track the populist movements / battles as they occur, and not necessarily under the banner of politics.

For instance, Gamergate, Occupy Wallstreet, Maga Movement, and now the Wallstreet bets have all been "battles" with something in common: They cross political lines and share a common, populist root.

Here we can talk about the greater culture war and discuss the big picture for players and actions.

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