@MrSupreme

Field Report: 1st date in 5 years - Single Mom

Hi guys, here is how my first date since my 5 year hiatus went. No lay yet, but the FR will definitely come when it does, whether this girl or another. Before I begin, I'd like to point out the importance of flexibility, specially if we are not at the top of our game.

Start: I've been using dating apps for months, because I don't go out much right now, so I wrote to this (and like a bazillion others) girl (32yo) about 3 weeks ago. After a brief exchange I left a "give me your whatsapp so we can chat better there" message and she took 2 weeks to reply (later found out she barely uses the app), I didn't make much of it because these d.apps girls like to ghost like nothing I've ever seen. So I started chatting her up, lives quite far from here (big no for me), then she tells me she has one daughter (big no for me), so I saw no reason to keep talking to her. But then my abundance mentality kicked in, and i figured fuck it, there's many girls around who fit what I'm looking for (single, between 21 and 27,no kids) but they're not showing up for me, something ain't working. So i keep showing interest and tell her I'll invite her out one of these days.

Fast forward to these last 2 weeks, she agreed to go out, and of course I had to pay her ride because girls here just don't move around themselves (actually had to make it clear it was on me,venezuelan girls are very selective out of self interest). So date day comes, we had a videocall the night before, very flirty and clearly horny but was with a young cousin so she couldn't talk too hot, she tells me now that she has 4 (FOUR!) kids but IDGAF anymore about my standards i just wanna fuck some beauty and get it over with, not looking for a girifriend here,it has been so long since my last date/sex I just don't care much at this point. Plus she ended up being a 7/10 anyways,her face a 5 though. So yesterday, she phones me after work, gets ready and I call her uber, she told me he was hitting on her on the way and i joke about it. I get there first, wait for her and we meet.

Her face brightens up as she sees me and blood starts filling my cock as I see her as well,rockin' body for a 32yo mother of 4,super thin and feminine. She is shy,can't look me in the eyes for more than 2 seconds cause her fuck-me eyes look is too obvious, was hot despite being in AC, we kiss on the cheek and hug closely when we meet, and I find out right away she is just a hot tart, probably wet as fuck already, and while we walk she stumbles on her own words and her hands comes close to mine as we walk as if fishing for mine. Side note: I felt something in my dick during the date and my underwear confirmed I was so ready to fuck her in front of everyone that I was dripping pre-cum, that's a first heh

After we walk and chat a bit we go outside where there is a nice view of the large lake where some people just sit down and relax. Since she is doing no talking at all, but looks at my face with a shy horny smile, I lead the convo, I get close and we share a nice short kiss to break the ice. She starts talking more but in all date she doesn't talk much if I wasn't doing the talking, fine by me. We go in, have an ice cream cone, her looking at me flirty while licking the icecream, like she doesn't know what she's doing, and we go out again as it gets darker to see the sunset. We talk, get closer and she holds my shoulders and my back, initiates kissing and touching, her legs sometimes feel my dick and I come closer so she can knows I know whats up. We spend about an hour just holding each other, kissing with and without tongue and just playing around, i hold her neck a bit here and there and pull her hair cause I told her I'm rough and i wanted her to see that Its a part of me, great feedback on that cause she ends up leaning towards being submissive enough to enjoy it and her body feels super hot.

Date ends, kiss kiss,bye bye and starts texting me thanking me for a great time and for me being so cute to her, she texts me some more but I was dismissive because I can't let her take too much of my time out of dates.These girls are always shit-testing in some form. We had a videocall a few minutes ago because she wanted to say hi, and If she gets too clingy with that of course I have to make an excuse to not have the call or outright tell her that I need some time and I enjoy missing each other a bit.

My takeaways are that:

-I had to calibrate my game to a more realistic approach where if I know all girls here are broke and/or lazy then a man has got to do all the date logistics, even her part like transportation. This is a fairly traditional/conservative country I live in and men have to do it all, no point resisting this stuff, I tried and doesn't work. -Cast a larger net: My standards are fine, but If i'm not getting results then I gotta involve more people in my search like the occasional bangable chubby or single moms, maybe even a milf that is at most a 72% batshit person.

I am still not getting laid though it's just one hot date, there's some attractive green flags with this girl so we'll see.

Thanks for reading, always great to share this stuff here and just keep it constructive, It's been 5 years and I think the date and the attraction building was great. Hopefully will be writing a FR soon on banging her or anything with a hole. She wants to call me everyday, and hasn't been on a date in 3 years, already talked with her about "doing something more" and she said "Yes,if it happens i would"...

Any words fellas?

It's good you recognized that you've got to keep looking, but a chick with four kids when you've got none? Honestly, I wouldn't recommend a guy with no kids to go down this path. While it's good that you both like what you see in each other and I won't deny that a man's got to practice his game, it's tragic that these are the few options available for you to do so. Regardless, I would advise you study the book and keep approaching other women. If most of the females you interact with seem to be looking for relationship exclusivity, but would otherwise be burdensome dependents, you should exercise caution going forward. If you've got the time, check out "The Manipulated Man" by Esther Vilar.

@MrSupreme

Expert Advice neded - Broke/Unemployed game

Hello everyone,I'll be quick here. For shithole country reasons, my financial situation has been difficult for a few years, i've struggled with unemployment for a while now, but I'm coming out of it this year with a focus on career and not just jobs. Unemployment and low money is not the issue right now, it is only a factor to take into account when gaming and approaching women here, and I am DONE being off the market.

Setting: Most girls here are broke too, unemployed and always looking for a provider guy, particulary on dating apps, There is polarization where guys are either low income or high income, almost no middle class which is where I'm at.

I go out, see guys aged 20-40 and they're all getting laid, they all have a normal love life, not a lot of marriage going around. I am half-broke,I have money to date and get laid, my basic needs are covered, and I am starting my job search as an english teacher in about a week after I get my certificate, so i'm optimistic about finally getting a stable income and a job. I won't reveal how long I've been without pussy, but Vermillion and his story comes to mind, i know it can be done.

I know many of you experienced guys have been through rough economic situations and have still managed to have plates and get laid, so here's the main question: How do i integrate conversation about my situation into gaming without scaring them off?

It has happened countless times where I'm having a fun chat,interest is growing, and the question comes along: "What do you do? What's your job?" And i'm guessing this is where I am failing, cause I have been saying stuff like "I'm finishing some studies to start this new job" "I'm coming out of unemployment in a few weeks" and stuff like that. No matter how I put it, that is the killswitch. They can be 21 year old girls looking for fun or 45 year old good looking women looking for a partner, but once they ask that and I reply I get ghosted. (most of these women are broke ass hotties or proud hard working kinda feminists,many girls asking for some kind of direct money transfer has been very common, even before a first date or even giving their number...)

So how did you guys talk about this stuff when getting your plates? Where am I failing? It has happened so much I just can't put my finger on it. Bitch if you just wanna fuck why are you vetting me like you're looking for the father of your children?

TO ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION: I had success when living abroad, i know I live in a very dysfunctional place, I am open to the idea that I'm not the problem here. So my answer would be to get the money first and then find the girl, simple,basic and where I'm going anyways. I'm very horny, my libido is very healthy and I know It can be done, I wouldn't be even trying if i thought otherwise.

Just reposting to the proper tribe.

If you experienced any degree of success with girls local to the places you were overseas, try your luck going after foreigners in the tourist spots. They'd likely be the most receptive to bang casually with little to no concern for how broke you are than the girls in your country.

Outside of that, the best move for you would be to study the book, engage your income situation, pay your debts, rebuild your savings, and find a stable business you can get into. If anything, aim to diversify your income sources, so that if you lose any single one, you've still got the others to fall back on with breathing room to explore alternates.

@MrSupreme

Is jealousy ever the right move?

Main question in the title.The thing is I was in a long(8year) relationship, and I never,ever showed jealousy.I admit there weren't many times to show it,but it never showed at all. My main mental process was something like "you may flirt and look at her,but my dick is the one that's in her", so why even bother feeling disrespected or upset about it, whether it was her or some other guy starting whatever usually induces jealous feelings. Is this normal? This subject is not talked about enough I think

Also, i'm wondering WHEN it is an appropiate time to show a healthy dose of jealousy.

Eight years is a long time to be romantically involved with one female who's neither your wife, or mother to your children. Regardless, to answer your question, it's best to never show jealously in regards to any female you're involved with romantically. Not only is it contrary to the mindset of abundance, showing jealousy confirms a females suspicions that you have few, if any, alternatives to female companionship and intimacy outside of her. If she's being pursued by other males of either higher status, and/or better looking, than yourself, then she may gradually begin employing dark triad tactics to control you.

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.