He's definitely not very competent from an engineering/science standpoint, but he's useful so far in assigning the team tasks, prioritizing tasks, and checking in with the team.
Reads like your gut instincts are serving you well. If taking on the role of being full-time staff is of no interest to you, then you should suggest some people with those skills in your professional network to the client, or recommend she place ads for candidates that can bring those skills to her company. Use it as an opportunity to find someone better rounded to replace the current manager while you're at it for the benefit of cost effectiveness.
The engineering manager is of Caucasian descent. But, he noticed that the CEO really respects me, values me, and appreciates me greatly.
Is his level of competence one your comfortable with or is it below your expectations for someone in his position?
@SamuelAnders Go with your gut in cases like this. Your subconscious is processing elements that your conscious mind hasn't apprehended, often correctly because its much older.
Think being stuck with a bad family is bad try getting Stockholm Syndromed into staying in a rotten and dysfunctional organization.
People tend to be either highly competent managers/subordinate worker bees OR engineers/creatives/true visionaries.
Individuals who shine at both are not only rare, they usually aren't found long term within someone else's hierarchy.
Gut feeling? I've consulted for a company whose CEO (a woman) has been pleading with me to join for nearly 1.5 years. I've turned down her offers at least four or five times. She recently invited me to an offsite to meet her team, and I met her engineering manager, who gave me a bad vibe. I could tell he didn't like me right away. I went for a walk with him and my body felt uneasy and agitated the entire time. Over the next 3 to 4 weeks, while video chatting remotely, I began to experience increasingly bad gut feelings and increased stress/anxiety throughout the day, until I rejected their offer for the sixth time. And then the bad gut feeling went away.
Any ideas if this is normal or not? FWIW, the engineering manager is a pretty horrible engineer, but an okay/decent manager (can write out tasks, prioritize tasks, etc).
As you've turned down the job offer several times prior to this, here are some better questions to mull over. Have the reasons you held regarding those past decisions to pass on the job diminished at all? Is the experience above an additional uneasy gut feeling to add to the list of reasons you've turned down the job so far? If possible, can you recommend someone you know comparable in competence and experience available to consider the job offer? Do you have a professional network you can tap to find someone to fulfill that role? Is the guy who gives you the gut feeling a foreigner or heritage domestic?
I've heard and experienced the serious tribalism on the part of Indians and "Latinos" in management. One of my first jobs at a movie theatre back in high school, a newly minted female Indian manager fired the entire staff so she could hire her own people. At another location, a bull-dike "Latin" female did the same.Read More