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Mate1212
2h ago  TheRedPill

Walking away is your biggest power as a man. I've walked away in the past a couple of times. It always hurted even though it was the right thing to do.

Maybe it took longer than it could have. But I always did. Whether it was disrespect from here side, or other opinions of the future together. I've always walked away before getting cheated on.

But It always hurt. It scratched on the "psychological health". Higher bpm when I thought I'm about to end it or I couldn't eat days before ending it.

Older brothers, will this ever stop? Will I ever be able to walk away from a LTR without going through bad / negative emotions?

Some didn't hurt, and some took really long. Where everything was how I wanted it, but she had other plans for the future ( hedonist treadmill / career and I wanted the American dream (stay at home mom)).

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First-light
2w ago  TheRedPill
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@Typo-MAGAshiv I agree with both your statements.

Politely avoid was my main advice but if it fails and he can't her turning up expecting orbiting behaviour, then set out a boundary that has to be respected in work place culture not block and ignore as this makes him look like the problem.

It would have been better had I written "He no longer aims to bang her" "Want" can mean a lot of things -both desire and intention. "I don't want to smoke any more" is a similar statement to what he is saying. Of course deep down inside he wants to bang her but he has accepted that wanting to is messing up his head as it makes him orbit pitifully.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
2w ago  TheRedPill
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@First-light

he does not want to bang her any more

I don't believe that for a second. Dude typed up several pages about her, so she's very much in his head.

As for the rest, I foresee that doing more harm than good. Just avoiding her and being polite but distant when he must interact would be the best course.

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First-light
2w ago  TheRedPill
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@Typo-MAGAshiv But he does not want to bang her any more. He is not trying to impress her with his unbreakable manhood. He wants rid.

In a work setting it helps to use the power language of our day. People are not allowed to hurt each other within the workplace. She is essentially abusing her relationship with an orbiter by making it entirely one sided. He is quite within his rights to say "This hurts, and I want it to stop" and the system will then back him if she transgresses.

You can leave the word "hurt" out or change it slightly if you fear it will shrink your pee pee. I thought it was rather helpful in the work setting where colleagues who hurt each other are punished.

I also really don't see a problem with a man acknowledging his feelings. Being tough is not about having no feelings its about being in control of them.

"Girls can't hurt me" Is one way that the blue pill makes men simp. The blue pill lets women behave badly to men and men are supposed to be rocks that just take it or else they are pussies who can't man up enough. The red pill says "This hurts. I deserve better and I am going to have better"

If you look all pitiful and beg to be left alone its weak. I, however think a man can say "I am not getting anything out of this. It hurts me to be putting myself out there and be ignored and flaked on all the time then have your emotional shit dumped on me. Its one sided and I am out, please do not contact me again" If he says this politely in a manly way it is simply a true statement of his frame. We don't have to act all the time.

Why else does he want rid of a hot woman's presence? Its only because he is only getting misery from her? Why fake this up as anything else? Call it what it is. We are big enough to and the system in this case will actually back him up if she transgresses. If however he appears to be having a pissy fit, flounces out on her and ignores her then the system says he is a bit of a dick to a colleague and backs her.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
2w ago  TheRedPill
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@First-light

Sometimes a boundary has to be formally laid out

100% in agreement there, but I don't think that's necessary yet.

But 100% against the heart-on-his-sleeve display of weakness you advocated earlier.

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Vermillion-Rx
2w ago  TheRedPill
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@Typo-MAGAshiv

Correct

Still got to give the benefit of the doubt for them to answer

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First-light
3w ago  TheRedPill
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@Typo-MAGAshiv But this is an office scenario now, she is hot and the place is full of simps. If he really can't just back off from her and she keeps dumping her emotional crap on her and seek orbiter support, he needs to have this talk with her or he is open to being accused of being passive aggressive, an arsehole or whatever for ignoring her and simps will come to her aid.

Sometimes a boundary has to be formally laid out or you are just perceived as causing the problem, not trying to avoid it. Once the boundary is established, then the other person is the aggressor when they cross it.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
3w ago  TheRedPill
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@First-light

calmly explain that this is a one sided relationship that is hurting you by wasting your time and energy and you do not wish to continue it

Not a good idea.

This woman has already shown that she doesn't care about him, and doing this will just confirm to her that she has power over him.

He'll be far better off just to distance himself and avoid being around her.

Acta, non verba.

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Durek_The_Bald
3w ago  TheRedPill

@IDoCeramicHoles You're far from the only one here who've behaved in embarrassing ways with females. It's past, so let that shit go.

A few take-aways going forward:

  • Don't chase. Make yourself available, yes. Shoot your shot (once), yes. But don't ever chase. There's no doubt in your gut when a female is really into you. Despite what you've probably been taught, it's a woman's job to chase - not a man's.

  • Value your own time and attention. Those are two of your most valuable assets. When you give them away for cheap, you depreciate the value of them. If you don't value your own time and attention, nobody else will either. See above; Give your time and attention to women who chase you.

Oh, and by "time and attention", I also mean ruminating about some particular female. Letting someone live rent-free in your head is also "giving time and attention". You might think it's a private thing, and she wouldn't know anyways, but it definitely affects your general state of mind, and how you present.

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First-light
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@IDoCeramicHoles Basically do nothing. It won't help you to involve yourself with her and it won't help you to actively distance yourself from her as it will look bad on you in the eyes of everyone she will be impressing.

Aim to have the most minimal involvement possible with her. Always keep it friendly. As she works her way into everyone's good books, she will be less of a pain to you. She will find higher up men to be seeking attention from.

If she still becomes a pain, calmly explain that this is a one sided relationship that is hurting you by wasting your time and energy and you do not wish to continue it. Show no bitterness, just politely ask her to not contact you again for anything not work related and then ignore anything from her after that.

Very selfish hot women almost always get away with bad behaviour at work -just not pulling their weight or keeping agreements but you will gradually find people tire of her. She is also unlikely to remain that interested in talking to you. You are a safe orbiter for her while she is new in the company. She will want to add more orbiters and seek out men she is actually attracted to, all this will take the heat off you, so play it cool. It will most likely get better by itself.

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