@Manofcave

Brutal reality check, how can i man the fuck up?

Yesterday i was talking to this girl who liked me, we even talked sexual stuff, everything was going pretty well, i was interesting(cool hobbies), agreed and amplified, i sent her my body pic with 12% bodyfat(visible 6 packs) and decent muscles, she found it to be really hot, she's an unemployed skinny fat chick who's never set a foot in the gym(im sure even her dms are full with dudes). Then she asked my height and i told 5'10 (actually 5'8) and it was over, she said she wont sleep with anyone under 6' as her previous bf was 6' skinny dude, brutal slap straight in the face.

i know i wont ever reach the level of success a genetic specimen can reach without putting in any effort, but my effort I've put on for years on end to yield me failures all my life whenever I've tried puts me in depression from time to time, like id go to the gym consistently for 6 months and then it hits and i go into depression for 2 months completely starving myself and loosing all my gains .

I've tried everything guys from cold approaching (40+) to dating apps( got 2 matches in a month) to tried being friends with chicks irl (warm approach), and nothing has ever worked in my entire like till now. a KV no matter of how much i try and improve based on the field approaches i do, don't lead to any tangible results

for context I'm a bald(was Norwood 3 so i shaved it all) 20yo man who needs to man the fuck up but don't know how to do so.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtwiAkUj5Go

Study the book and you'll do better next time around, short stuff. Besides, nothing good ever came of men whose self-confidence was dependent on female validation. Self-confidence is a result of pursuing and overcoming the various challenges of life. During which time, you come to understand what interests, drives, and motivates you. To that end, I suggest that you get yourself two sheets of paper, a pen, and sit down at a table.

On the first sheet write down a list of things that you've been putting off on the back burner due to work, schooling, or just life in general. It doesn't matter how silly, or stupid the task or idea might be, just write it down. When you're done, take the second sheet of paper, and re-write the items from the first list starting with what you believe to be the simplest, easiest task, to the most complicated.

When you're done with the second list, get to work. The challenge once you've got the list done won't be simply accomplishing them, but not allowing yourself to be de-spirited whenever you encounter difficulty, or failure. To not let yourself be defeated. You'll spend the time to troubleshoot and diagnose the problem, then start over. If you need help, ask. There's no shortage of #books we can recommend that may help you achieve your goal.

Best of luck to you.

@Manofcave

self improvement is not enough or i've not done enough of it?

hi guys, straight to the point.

I've improved a lot compared to my past self 4 years ago when i first discovered the RP got a decent bod , but no matter how much i try, just can't seduce women tried multiple different(and a combination of them) approach being an asshole, always agreed and amplified shit tests, Machiavellian, kino-ed her according to body language but always got signals to go back one step.

I've even tried to seduce whales(it seems even they have better options than me) to practice but it seems even they are not interested in me. I've developed great hobbies where i'm great at and like doing but its all nerdy stuff philosophy, math, coding, technical stuff. ik these all stuff is not what a woman should give a fuck about but its part of who i am. i also don't drink or smoke or do drugs so parties/bars/clubs are out of the question for me to meet women which reduces my options to cold approaching in my college and online dating apps.

Tried Hinge(paid)/tinder/bumble trio with the best pictures i could find and got 4 matches in a month of swiping, 2 didn't even responded to the first text, other 2 were attention farming men on the app

30+ cold approaches of which I've got around 5 numbers and 1 date 0 lays (yes IK its a low number but cold approaching is not generally acceptable in the conservative culture i live in, but no excuses and will try more) money game is bad as im still in college but its not an excuse to not develop this area of my life

also im not on Instagram or any other social media as consumes too much of my time to build and keep the profile updated and becomes about seeking external validation so i don't indulge

20yo,kv, 5'8, 12%body fat(visible 6 packs), autistic,72kg bw, 21.77FFMI, little more than 2 years of lifting experience, also considering 500mg test after a few more years

I humbly beg the advice of yours intelligence and experience on how to tackle this area of my life and maximize it to its potential.

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.