Ways to avoid being seen as beta?
What are some other behavioral traps that guys can fall into, mistakes that will make a girl beta-zone him?
Here are some I can think of, off the top of my head:
-Confessing feelings to a girl, especially early
-Smiling in a total dork way
-Looking down in a sheepish submissive way
-Being seen as the 'follower' of another man 'leader' (but is there more context to this?)
-Hesitating in the approach for too long
-Shaming other men who say things that offend women, like a girl would do
-General emotional reactivity
-Being a simp
-Nervous awkwardness
-Having no muscle
It's good that you've put together something of a list here. I'd suggest you get yourself a sheet of paper, a pen, and expand on this. Just write down everything you've wanted to do, no matter how silly, or important onto a sheet of paper. Anything you've had to put aside for reasons like work, schooling, family, and so on. Just write it all down. Then on another sheet of paper, re-write those things starting with what you believe maybe the least difficult all the way down to the most challenging. When you've finished, get to work.
While you're working down that list and knocking things off, study the book. Also, don't be afraid to check out both the books and fitness enthusiasts tribes. Build up a library of knowledge you can refer to even if the power's out.
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Have I Been Connecting with Women Too Much?
On one hand I've had the experience where all I needed with some women was Attraction and Logistics (and the most basic conversation to fill the air), and they'd bang within 1-2 hours of meeting.
But then I bought into the idea that "not all women are like that," the idea that there are some women who require either some kind of emotional connection, or "liking you as a person" or even basic commonalities before having sex.
So is that a completely blue pilled idea? Is it in fact bad to focus on building a connection with a woman in any way other than sexually, before sex, otherwise the greater the chance of being LTR-zoned or even friend-zoned? *If a guy has short-term value demonstrations, can he get away with "connecting with women"?
Is it the most red pilled way to maximize nothing other than Attraction, Logistics, and Short-term value demonstration? Will all women be hoes and have sex with a man they consider attractive, without any degree of feeling connected?
I heard from a PUA that the four values are Fun, being Interesting, Masculinity and Confidence. Masculinity and Confidence seem congruent with red pill, then the Fun part seems like the point of "connecting." But is the 'Be Interesting' part either completely unnecessary, or is it that what women find interesting is just the more you can show bold moves and alpha traits?
Attempting to answer my own question: Yes, I've been in the past overprioritizing connection, especially over text. However, it doesn't mean that all non-sexual communication is detrimental, especially if it's about "fun." I should focus more on the concept of building short-term value, because even if and when a LTR is wanted, a plate can be turned into one. There is a bigger discussion to be had about a woman's distorted feeling and perception of a man's LTR-value after having short-term sex with him, versus a man's actual ability to run and manage LTR game, but that's a whole other topic. I honestly don't know how ratio-wise women can be split into groups of: 'needing emotional connection before sex' vs. 'don't need it but have stronger comfort-locks' vs. 'true DTF hoes only needing attraction'
Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.
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