@Vermillion-Rx Yeah, I totally second this, based on my young experiences in the 80s, going to "nicer" clubs in the 80s. The whole thing reminded me of the joke about the cop approaching a drunk walking back and forth under a streetlamp who said he's searching for his keys. The friendly cop asks where did you lose them? Down the block he says, but the light is much better right here. I was raised in an intact household to treat women respectfully, but my age cohort was the first wave of children of easy divorce. Over and over, I'd ask some girl to dance, and she'd look me up and down quickly and give some noncommittal response if not outright reject me. Then, I'd see that same girl on the dance floor a minute later with a total Compton hood rat. That environment favors the more flamboyant and aggressive end of the male population. Inexperienced and nonassertive guys like I was back then, can't compete well in dance clubs.