Vermy discovered internet porn and we're just never going to get his full attention ever again.
Way to dox me, man
Vermy discovered internet porn and we're just never going to get his full attention ever again.
Way to dox me, man
@MentORPHEUS You're still mincing words. Nobody donated more than $6,600 to Trump's campaign.
What part of independent organizations having free speech to endorse candidates do you disagree with? Where do you draw the line?
@redpillschool FFS, I'm trying to say that Miriam Adelson and Elon Musk each dropping $100MM into the last election cycle then getting direct control over US Foreign Policy and Government agencies and expenditures, represents a subversion of democracy at a scale never approached in human history.
@MentORPHEUS I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say. Independent corporations and unions do not have limits on how they spend money on political speech.
The only limits that exist are donations to political candidates.
restrictions on independent political expenditures by corporations and unions violated their right to free speech
There exists no equivalence between expenditures by corporations and unions wherein each member gets capped at $3,300 per election, and a single donor like Miriam Adelson or Elon Musk dropping $100MM each per election. This represents the baseline upon which we appear unable to find common ground.
@Vermillion-Rx Vermy discovered internet porn and we're just never going to get his full attention ever again.
@MentORPHEUS Brother, you know I love you, but you're killing me on this one.
The rationale behind Citizens United v. FEC hinged on the First Amendment, as the Supreme Court ruled that restrictions on independent political expenditures by corporations and unions violated their right to free speech. The decision was based on the principle that political spending is a form of protected speech under the First Amendment.
You keep marching into the weeds about how unfair $100 million is, or Elon, or Trump, or foreign money or corrupt politicans are.
I have been doing nothing but trying to establish a baseline which you and I can agree upon in order for us to debate the specifics. And you refuse to answer the question.
You cannot address $100 million from Elon until you address the free speech question.
You can't argue about the fairness of any of this until you first address the core issue the Supreme Court ruled on: free speech.
I haven't gone off the rails, brother. This train never even left the station.
Read More@redpillschool @Typo-MAGAshiv Siiigh I give up, this plays out like trying to reason people out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. It's not the only place on the internet where this discussion ran off the rails like this for me.
At this point, what I ask: When this particular shit hits the fan in the not too distant future, please remember how hard your friend MentORPHEUS tried to get you to see it coming.
@Typo-MAGAshiv we'll give something a try and see how it goes
@MentORPHEUS I'm a little astounded at your inability to entertain a hypothetical thought experiment designed to test the logical limits of the argument on the grounds that you don't personally know anybody in that position. No shit,that's why it's a hypothetical.