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tmbg:
the example that I have is people that are sold on the idea of the state being daddy provider for all things, like universal healthcare. I'll concede that it'd be a great thing if people could get 'free' universal health care, but then ask them: "how would you pay for such a thing?" - and they never have an answer
Anteros:
its just socialism with a new face
its pretty much all the Democrats are good for these days: sneaking in socialism at every opportunity
I'm somewhat surprised GE Trump even signed their bullshit border bill
tmbg:
yes, it is, but my point here is that you can't just tell them "socialism is bad, mmmkay?"
that goes in one ear and right out the other
you have to get them to a point that they question their own beliefs. they can't be told directly
Anteros:
right on

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