What does it mean when women ask if you have kids?

Every first or second encounter I have with a chick I’m getting this question. They give me this look like “you must have a hot baby mama somewhere” and literally ask in this flirty and serious manner “do you have a kid somewhere that I need to know about, you seem like someone who would have a kid”. Besides my mom being a nanny when I was younger and being the oldest of 3 guys, I don’t have that much parental instinct or feel I give that vibe.

So is this opportunity to say “let’s see if you can be the new baby mama”? I usually just respond with a low voiced “well…not that I know of” and shoot them a charming grin and eye contact. Is this her inner self, telling me to cream pie her in code?

The further I get along this RP road the more I realize how easy women are to seduce, and how effective leaving if she doesn’t fuck you (LMR) turns her into your sex object next time around. How they fall in love and bring up relationships - but you’ve only spent 10 hours awake together, 5 of those have been fucking, and you barely know shit ab her but she’s bringing up relationships tactfully, and you can literally frame however you want with confidence. All because you barely text a girl and fuck her once a week. Sounds like a shitty guy, but girls get wetter and wetter for these types, which I’m now a part of again. I missed this, but damn is it fucking eye opening.

Hearing your buddy (who’s a 7) tell you he’s smashing 18-21 chicas, half of those chicks being married. It’s a great time to fuck some whores, but damn I want a decent girl who wants to be my personal, enraptured, submitting porn star. I’m just not okay with mixing cream pies you feel dawg.

As I was- why the question about kids so much and the fast submission/push for a relationship?

LTR Update #3: I’m in the purgatory phase. I know I just made that up but to me it’s when you distance yourself from your LTR and get perspective. The last 3 days I’ve been on a porn binge after an almost 15 month abstinence. Today I also broke my T break of 25 days (T break=weed break) because from past experience it (for me) stops porn use and depression, anxiety, OCD, and suicidal thoughts. Why might you ask would I binge on porn? It’s cause after my last counseling session I realized I can’t trust my LTR anymore. I’ve read about it for months from RP forums and websites but holy shit guys it’s true. Some comment that I talk too much or whatever and that’s true lol. It’s who I am, it frustrates me a lot too. But there’s a deeper meaning behind it - to alert others. I want to reach out to the over-analyzers and super skeptics, the ones that can never really shut their brains off. Guys the breach of trust first happened when I finally (after 4 months) checked my LTR’s phone after being away at a military exercise for 2 weeks. I found messages to a guy’s snap stories (he’s a sharp looking guy in a suit) and my LTR’s replies of “” and other flirty messages. I found where he had asked her out soon after her and I “officially” got together, by her request (fuckup number #1 I only vetted for a few weeks but knew her as a work acquaintance for months). Most everyone here is ab the details and I think it’s good to learn so here’s a few. First detail is when she denied to go out with him, she didn’t just say “no sorry bro I gotta boyfriend lol” which I believe your LTR should be saying or something damn close and leaving it there. Nah, my LTR’s response was almost “oh my goodness I’m flattered but I can’t but I would love to, except my boyfriend wouldn’t appreciate me hanging out with a guy 1:1”, as if she’s trying to convince herself, to him. Well this guy has some game (but weirdly enough sends smilies a lot and acts like a beta orbiter but his looks say otherwise). So I obviously am a little off put by that but I convince myself it’s a one off. I dig deeper and find out the “” emojis after he STILL won’t drop it. He still asked her out again and instead of my LTR acting pissed she just kept entertaining it. He would randomly message her or vice versa, there were weird overly nice texts like these two were besties or some shit but I still thought “nah it’s cool man the worst it can be is emotional cheating maybe she’s just immature”. See I convinced myself and had to keep convincing myself of these things, which me just 5-6 months ago would’ve dumped her ass for. Then I found she had a private snap story with the only two other guys she snapped (the guy above being one of them) and a bunch of chicks. There was shit on there I didn’t like, things she knew I would’ve hated. Then I found another conversation from another guy. Then my younger bro went through where she worked one night and while he’s driving through the parking lot she’s walking back to her job from a guy he knew there’s car, and she her demeanor was surprised to see my bro (even tho he goes there all the time and she knows it). I confronted her ab this (thinking it was RP and obviously just amazed at the audacity) and she swears it was because he had her work hat in his car. I never did follow up with my bro to ask if he saw a hat. Here’s the thing guys. At the end of the day, she COULD be telling the truth. But as many said before me, watch what she DOES. Why would a girl go another guy’s car at night to get a hat? Especially a small girl who is adamant that men are assholes and predators? I can either believe nothing happened or be open to the plausible reality that she sucked and/or fucked this guy. Then I would ask things in the future about stories and she’d leave out certain things but again, I’d convince myself. I of course confronted her of everything since I was in shock of the claims and she cried and begged, she sucked and fucked me but it was never really the same. Then, likely out of guilt, she booked an expensive vacation for my birthday for us. I thought that by her “making up” for it all it would make it right, I even told her any slight screw ups from this day forth and I’m out. Yet the facade didn’t last too long and ultimately I noticed she would still entertain one of the guys from time to time. Recently, I found out she hid the chat (not deleted, didn’t know it was an option) of yet ANOTHER guy and when confronted about it she didn’t have much to say other than she wanted “to keep you at the top of my Snapchat list”. I was floored and left her house, not responding to calls for days. The day after that, I enrolled in therapy. The last session ended with me realizing this LTR can’t be trusted and the floodgates came open. I’m just figuring out now how to do it. There will likely be a lot of fallout because she seems super invested in me but guys don’t make my same mistake.. don’t think just because she “loves” you that she’s not just using you as a boyfriend prop. In many ways I was redpill, in many ways blue. A solid purple pill guy so to speak. But you shouldn’t ideally be “purple” until years into a marriage if at all. You shouldn’t tolerate your LTR talking to men and flirting in front of you and behind your back in the name of trying to remain looking alpha. The most alpha shit you can do is go with your gut, the first time. Months later my mind is gushing open with realizations and truth i’d pressed down for so long. Sure. She might thinks she loves you, but she probably also likes getting tag teamed by those guys you always had that “off” feeling about. Women are experts at rationalizing their emotions for themselves. You don’t want to know how deep the rabbit trail might go, just react appropriately to her actions. If there’s disrespect or shady shit, leave. The ONLY time anything bad MIGHT be tolerated is if she admits it to you first, even then it’s probably not worth it and you can react appropriately and RESPECT YOURSELF FIRST.

Not too long ago I thought that even if I was JUST PLATING a girl and she was fucking other guys it’s alright, now I have a king mindset. If a girl thought I was a king, and wanted me above all else, would she put herself in ANY position to compromise that? Texting, going to a car, DM’s, flirting with another man? She 100% wouldn’t because you are the prize, the king! If she does, it means she doesn’t respect you, end of story. The way I see it, kings of old used to have concubines (likely virgins) and they all wanted to be by the king and chosen by him. But they were content just being fucked. Obviously the king wouldn’t want others fucking his women. Would you want someone else fucking or having access to yours? Women who want wholeheartedly you won’t fuck around on you, period. You won’t hear about it, see it, or worry because she will reflect the fact it doesn’t exist by her respect and admiration of you. So before you guys try to think around your next LTR situation “I think she’s disrespecting me what do now?” just ask yourself, would she tolerate it if it happened to her? Is your sweet princess pussy really yours or are you just the star for the moment? If she’s gotta make excuses, she’s just not THAT into you bro. Find a girl who is because when you do, THAT girl will suck your dick to the moon without asking, do everything you want without you even asking, and make a 100% effort. After all, she wants her side next to a king. Then it’s up to you if you want, to choose an LTR from your “harem”. If she isn’t always choosing you, always sacrificing and ready for you, giving for you, there’s another king on her throne. Worry about you first and be the most badass guy you can be, the rest will naturally fall into place. No, I don’t think it’s wrong to expect a girl to only fuck you but you fuck other girls. Go back to the king analogy. Once you start thinking like respecting yourself, tolerating yourself, and demanding such as a king would, then you will be. Funny how the mind works.

Btw why the porn binge? Something about seeing other chicks rammed and choked probably behind their bf’s/husbands backs like mine is to me is some sort of sick sadistic pleasure. I feel less guilt about that then fucking my girl and possibly slipping into another man’s cum or kissing it and catching some shit. It’s a rough world guys, gotta protect yourself and look out for you.

I got stories on stories even from my past. Hell I have a couple stories on female hypergamy from when I was in the Army that’ll blow your fucking minds. From an ex making herself available behind her husbands back to being able to call off an engagement/wedding of another girl. The crazy shit you never thought your seemingly God-fearing and innocent wife/fiancé/girlfriend wouldn’t do would rock your world.

Anyway, I think I’m still in an anger phase of RP and gotta get out of this fucking LTR. Remember guys, just say NO to pussy! Feel free to ask or request any stories or clarification. As much as I’m learning, I desire to teach and educate. Learning from each other is wise and sometimes the only truth we’ve got!

It’s been awhile guys but I have a juicy new update for you. So for too many reasons to list I’m still in my LTR, and after swallowing this red pill I have come to realize I’m on the fringe of this shit but having fun with it. I’ve implemented dread, quit drugs (which help my game/outgoing personality), started long over due counseling coming from a fucked up childhood and religious cult, went to a random MeetUp, etc and my LTR is better than it’s ever been. Except anyone here probably knows swallowing the pill within an LTR is a slow and painful process. Some things are better than ever, but sometimes those old patterns come back and shit still hits the fan. I’ve come to accept I’m a pissed off narcissist (thanks Pops) and been working on it. I’d highly recommend a lot of you guys to look into narcissism, I feel like it would cure a lot of your LTR issues, just my two cents. My LTR is also a narc. She hasn’t gone to counseling (I truly believe it has to be a personal choice for maximum effectiveness). She’s got a fuckton on her plate with her mom moving away with some Joe-blow essentially abandoning her with nowhere to live (I won’t cohabitate) in a month. She’s stressed out, whatever. Long story short she calls me last night and my phone was on silent since I was at a business conference. She then calls 15 mins later and I answer. I was home by now and by her voice I can tell she’s pissed and on the offense. Now, in the past a soft next worked well. But I came to the conclusion that a week long soft next is fucking childish in an LTR. Narcissism is at work in a lot of the bullshit RP stuff out there guys. Do your research and actually pay attention to your surroundings and truly successful/decently happy relationships don’t bloom and flourish when people ignore others for a week. I feel like I need to clarify MOST of the harsh shit you do to “punish” a woman is when she’s a plate/FWB and you’re vetting her. Now, I believe two narcs can have a relationship, but it’s characterized by fucking highs and shitty lows, for both. I saw it with my parents, other relationships, etc. The hardest part about this dynamic is it really only truly works when the man is the bigger asshole and one step ahead. But it eats you from the inside out and turns you into a lunatic monster if you’re not careful, and you’ll become cynical and a tyrant. Things that feel wrong and are wrong become right and you eat the lies like tasty treats while they poison you. This context is to set up what’s going on now, basically to be truly RP you have to master DGAF attitude, frame, and outcome independence. Those 3 things will take you further than any soft nexting, amused mastery, bullshit games. It seems like most “redpill” bros are just beta fags playing with alpha toys. Like that shrimpy limpdick kid in school who thought he was the shit cuz he had a nice chain and said “pussy” in every insult. That’s what most of y’all look like, pretenders. Don’t worry, I’ve been there. I digress - so my LTR is pissed I didn’t answer right away, she starts bitching and saying “see you never tell me what’s going on” (I didn’t tell her I was going to a business conference, I prefer to show results in the aftermath). Then she starts getting a hostile tone and she ends with hanging up the phone. This is hypocritical since she complains about me going silent on her yada-yada. She texts today saying she’s off at 10:30 if I want to see her, I don’t reply. She calls, I don’t reply. I don’t award blatant disrespect with attention (hanging up). Every time she pulls some shit like that now I start lining up the other prospects, and gents it does so much for your self respect as a man. So anyways, long story short or short story long, she sends this text. These are the texts from what I’ve seen you want because it shows dependence, her hamster going haywire, and desperation. Basically the same shit I used to send as a blue pilled 16 year old boy. But, since being a narc, she doesn’t except responsibility or apologize, still accuses, and tries for a tug at guilt. There’s even a borderline pseudo-breakup undertone to the whole thing, but I just laugh at it and see it as desperate attempts. My question for y’all would be; what should I truly take from a text like this? Im thinking in the morning I’ll just text like nothing happened and meet up, but at the same time I don’t like the abjection of responsibility and the blaming/gaslighting. How should a RP man respond, if at all? I will say my weakness is comfort tests, I likely fail those all the time, This LTR is likely doomed but I’m stringing it along for mostly educational and insightful purposes atm. I’ve learned so much shit from this it’s almost addicting to find out more about women’s nature.

@Trp108 I know this is an older thread but wanted to leave my two cents in case anyone else reads through this.

On a first date/hangout most girls if they’re not total whores won’t just let you stick it in them instantly or without some sort of hesitance - BUT, this is where you remain outcome independent (OI). Assuming this woman and you have mutual acquaintances/work/school/ whatever, her brain will put up that last wall of defense to justify not being a whore. Lemme clarify: you’re already at the point where this girl has made herself “vulnerable” to your advances. Women are scared of walking outside to check their mailbox at night, so if you’re already hanging out and about to fuck you just gotta be cool. Guys don’t realize that if you can get a chick to talk to you/open up/hang out alone the only thing left to do is fuck. Assuming when you said “about to penetrate” means you were making out and you were literally about to stick it in, this is where her final “I’m not a hoe/like other girls” subconscious attempt comes up. You see, unless she just packs up and leaves or starts making excuses to leave (seeing you as too beta right then, or just being a hoe and enjoys fucking with men) you still have a shot. Remember Outcome Independence? Play it cool next time like @Beerman said (abundance mentality). Go back to whatever you were doing (watching a movie, talking, switch subjects and do it together or make some shit up to do) and act like nothing happened and you’re unphased. 10-20 minutes later, initiate again and play it smooth like you’re starting all over (she’ll be ready tho, since women like that build up and know what’s going down now) and boom you’ll be pounding the wettest version of her pussy. This is because women are feels women and at the end of the day have to know you aren’t a total asshole and so they can justify to themselves they aren’t total whores “who give it up on the first date”. The first time I played it cool (myself very inexperienced at the time) I prob played it too nice/awkward as hell and the chick had to go. But she came back the next night and it was wild. Later on once my game was on point I went out with this chick who acted like she was a saint or “didn’t need a man”. This chick comes back to my place on our first time meeting and guess what, she pulls the “we should wait” card. I said cool, smiled, rolled back over and continued watching the movie. 10 minutes later I start kissing on her again and a few seconds later she’s moaning with delight into the pillow as I pound into her sugar walls. Another girl a few weeks later pulls the same thing at her place (first date/hangout). Cool, smile, watch movie for 10 minutes, up the kino and then she’s moaning into her couch cushion as I slam into her pussy from behind and then slam it in her ass which turns her on more. What’s the moral of the story? All girls are freaks, they want to be treated like a whore, but you gotta give em that one last out so they can’t convince themselves they aren’t. Then play it cool, wait 10-20, kiss/kino, make them moan with pleasure. Be a cool, collected alpha with abundance and outcome independence- not an angry asshole. Shit works.

@slutmagazine Thanks for your advice and perspective. That first paragraph makes total sense. I’m starting to grasp a little better the idea of “keeping frame” which is so easy to lose in an LTR (for me at least). It’s so easy when you’re out of an LTR or are monk mode but women have this nature to slowly and covertly try and make you submit to them, it’s a weird dance. Your last paragraph is on point too, although we might differ on men’s numbers but I can see how it definitely doesn’t hurt to keep it low and drama free. For a man I feel like numbers are much less risky and damaging then for a female. But I digress, and again I appreciate the feedback it’s given me a lot to think about and reevaluate.

Maybe I’ll reconsider this one extremely religious and Christian girl who said to me she was saving herself for marriage “for someone she felt God led her to” and I couldn’t find a blemish about..she was definitely a unicorn. She and I parted ways for a couple years (different lifestyles/jobs) but she cared more ab my soul status and important life decisions more than any woman I ever came across. I’ve thought ab a woman with those qualities for two years and no one has been close to it. Shit, guess I’m just playing myself.

@natedagr8 If you're worried about her cheating on you the moment you are harsh on her then that tells you everything you already need to know about the long term viability of a relationship with her.

I asked you about her n count for a reason. The lower the better. Women are really unlikely to go from losing their virginity in their first serious relationship to throwing away that in the heat of the moment, especially if you are strict about her not spending time with other men. But it's like a man committing murder. The heinous act gets easier for women after the first time. So if she's already fucked a bunch of guys it not hard for her to just fuck another one, current relationship status or not.

Literally was just eating somewhere and heard a chick talking to her girlfriend ab “if he’s already pissed ab something I can understand and it makes sense, but if he’s happy and in a good mood and THEN gets pissed I can’t stand that”. Wtf is with women lol.

Most women are socially retarded. Just because they tell you otherwise or like to socialize often and talk their heads off doesn't mean they aren't socially retarded. Children like to play too right? And some keep babbling. Doesn't mean you take them seriously.