@Durek_The_Bald

...the vast majority of men populating red pill space, or creating content, are not red pill.

Perhaps we’re getting into the semantic weeds here, but this statement of yours is nonsensical. It’s like saying “that dude sitting in Church is not the Church.”

Being red pilled is being more informed than you were before. And that journey can take a long time. I tend to avoid shitting on men for being early in their journey, but I don’t tolerate anyone Gatekeeping no matter who does it.

YOU don’t get to evaluate or assess how another man processes his journey.

Now if you had said “The men who _____ annoy me because it does not adhere to Rule #3 in Joe Schmoe’s Red pIll bible” then I would take it differently.

Grifters are entering mens’ spaces like crazy lately, and way too many are women. They are slowly chipping pieces of TRP content away and claiming it as their own by redefining. It is a classic grifter thing. I have misgivings about a few content creators - Rollo, Paul Elam, and Ryan Stone are a few. They seem to want to claim ownership of parts (or all) of "the red pill.”

then the state of a man's red pill journey can only be judged from where he's actually at in real, lived terms.

No. Some men take time to process. You are justifiably annoyed at some men whining. So am I. But that has no bearing on where a man is, and how he processes the information. If you did some sort of methodologically sound study on a few guys, tracking their states of mind over time, then yes - you can make such claims.

Otherwise you are saying “I am judging these men because they are not as RP-cool as me"

Just, no.

If all his theoretical knowledge only brought him to a place of perpetual resentment…. he hasn't demonstrated that is has actionable value

You have heard of Red Pill Rage. WTF dude. We have all been here before. And that may take a year or two.

YOU are not the arbiter of what or what is not red pill, THE red pill, a red pilled man, or a red pill journey.

@Vermillion-Rx

Thanks. My experience with anwerology.com and Reddit was so horrific that I pulled back.

Both sites grew on the backs of anonymous content creators like me and many of us here. They basically hijacked that content and kicked us out.

Keep in mind that my previous username was account #3 for me. I had years and years of content under different names. I was almost doxed because of sloppiness on my part.

Add to that watching folks downstream of Rollo (and he does it too) who take content from places like this and give little to no credit. Its just a scumbag move to do that.

At least Brian from whatever was open about his link here. So he gets big props for that.

Now I’m here, but still gun shy about putting in that much effort ever again.

But I will do what i can when i can.

Dodging Bullets (and not needing to) #3.

The patriarchy and trans "arguments" were obvious non-arguments. When you learn to look at the code behind the matrix, you can recognize that neither argument is made from a falsifiable position. Then it becomes clear that they cannot be positively asserted due to this weakness.

Unfalsifiability is one tool the programmers of the Matrix use to foment unending arguments and distract you from reality.

But you've chosen the red pill. You want to see reality.

The next kind of bullet the Matrix will fire at you is the self-contradictory argument. These can be difficult or impossible for a layperson to prove or disprove, but aren't in the same vein as unfalsifiable arguments.

Instead, we pay attention to the internal consistency of the story. When we detect inconsistencies, we can determine the motivations, honesty, and legitimacy of an actor and his ideas.

Take 2020 for a great list of examples:

• Wear a mask when walking to your table, but take it off once seated.

• Vaccinated people still need to mask, but vaccines are effective.

• The unvaccinated will endanger the vaccinated, but vaccines are effective.

• Small, distributed shopping among hundreds of little stores is a risk to spread covid, but concentrating everybody into one Walmart is not.

• Airplane travel is safe with Masks, but Thanksgiving with family is cancelled.

• The virus does not spread outdoors, but public parks and beaches are closed.

• You must vaccinate your children but they are at virtually zero risk.

• The vaccine is a brand new, untested delivery system that is still in emergency approval status, has bypassed many checks and balances that drugs undergo, initial data shows no reduction of deaths (actually one more death in the vaccinated group), and the control group has been vaccinated early so we will never know any long term effects, but also, it's safe and effective and if you reject it on these grounds you're anti-vax, anti-science, and anti-grandma.

• If you oppose any regulation or rule by decree that encroaches on your rights your during this emergency, you are anti-science and want grandma to die.

• The elderly are at highest risk of mortality from covid, but NY nursing homes are not allowed to deny entry of sick patients.

None of these individual inconsistencies disproves a pandemic, or gives you absolute proof that vaccines work or don't work. None of this is sufficient to prove that masks work or don't. It's not enough to falsify the 6-foot rule.

But you know what it is enough for?

Proving that every single expert, scientist, media outlet, health professional, doctor, and politician lied to your face about almost every factor involved in the pandemic.

In fact, when you hear a doctor mention the vaccine to you now, in 2025, it can be a pretty good litmus test for whether or not they're still willing to lie to you, even after almost all of these lies have come to light.

The establishment relies on most of these lies remaining unchallenged and in place, even as most are quietly dismissed by study after study proving they were wrong.

They stack emotional propaganda on top of other propaganda as a mechanism of laundering the lie. Sure, the masks thing was basically dismissed, and sure, 6-feet was made up on the spot. And sure, we have a lot of sudden, unexplained deaths in new demographics right now. But generally speaking you need to trust the science and get your vaccine. And we're going to start vaccinating the food supply because, despite getting some of the little stuff wrong, we were still right. Right? RIGHT?

Now you know enough to know they lied to you. It was willing, it was knowable at the time they did it, and they did it anyway.

You don't need to prove that the vaccine works or doesn't to know the person pushing it on your right now lied through their teeth. What else are they lying about?

You might not be satisfied that this doesn’t give you all the answers. But smart people understand that the most honest position is often not having an answer. The truth is, some answers are hard to find while others may be unknowable. What smart people recognize is that a real starting point isn’t certainty; it’s discernment. Clarity begins by knowing what aren't answers, what aren’t real arguments, and what’s just fake code from the Matrix.

When you're ready, you won't have to dodge bullets. You will see them for what they are: more code in the matrix.

@itsovER

isnt it a red flag if she's easy?

So many things you need to consider.

1) one man's red flag might be another man's yellow flag or green flag.

2) something that's a red flag for an LTR might be a green flag for something short term.

3) if she's easy for all men, then she's just a slut. But why not still have some fun?

4) if she's easy for you but not anyone else, that's awesome.

5) taking my numbers 3 and 4 in conjunction, consider Iron Rule of Tomassi #3:

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

Full article: Wait for it?

6) are you shooting for an LTR/girlfriend instead of just getting laid? Have you not read HumanSockPuppet’s Guide to Managing Your Bitches? From within that gem that's part of the Red Pill sidebar:

A long-term relationship CANNOT be your end goal. You can only be OPEN to the possibility of having one.

And as many MRP users over the past 10-13 years or so have demonstrated, it's true even when you're already married. Phrased another way:

as a man, your job is to be fuckable and get sex. a relationship is a woman's problem.

Hope this helps.

@FrancoAP to add to what Vermy and Baldy already said:

A) You want a woman who wants you, who is so into you that she loses her inhibitions when you're around.

B) You want sex.

C) You want your time not to be wasted.

A + B + C = you hope she fucks you as soon as possible.

Back when I was single and figuring things out through PUA and experimenting, I ended up having a 3-date rule: if we didn't fuck within 3 dates, I dropped her.

Out of all the women I ended up fucking at all, 2 were on the 2nd or 3rd get-together (over 20 years ago, so don't remember), and all the rest were on the first. Anyone for whom I tried to be patient before instituting that rule, ended up just stringing me along and wasting my time.

Unless a woman is a virgin (and I mean a true virgin with none of that "technical virgin" bullshit), if she isn't fucking you, then she's fucking someone else.

To [quote Rollo Tommasi](therationalmale.com/2011/09/23/wait-for-it/]:

Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It’s sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to fuck you will find a way to fuck you. She will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, fuck the shit out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work – women who want to fuck will find a way to fuck. The girl who tells you she needs to be comfortable and wants a relationship first is the same girl who fucked the hot guy in the foam cannon party in Cancun on spring break just half an hour after meeting him.