MGTOW stands for Men Going Their Own Way. It's a celebration of bachelorhood, of avoiding the financial and social burdens of marriage, including "common law marriage" or cohabitation.
Hi! I have a girlfriend and we have a sexual relationship.
Last week, I got into a real brutal fight with her one and only long time best friend who is male. He brutally beat me up in the fight in front of her which left my face suffering bone fractures. The fight happened due to him hating me and I don't know why. I feel like there is no reason. He's so strange. They were best friends before I met her. They are the same age while I am 3 years older than her.
Due to his gym habits, her best friend is muscular with six-pack-abs and big biceps and he is also physically stronger than most people his age such as when it comes to lifting, pulling, pushing, etc. He is also physically robust and strong due to constant manual labor. Also, he is a high-level hardcore MMA fighter while my girlfriend is a hardcore MMA fan.
But here's the weird part about my girlfriend.
After he brutally beat me up, she often hero-worships his MMA fighter identity in front of me, brags to me how amazing of a warrior he is, and how stronger and braver and more fearless he is than me. When I politely disagree neutrally and try to offer a logical explanation why, she often trash talks me about how her male best friend will destroy me easily like how rival NFL fans trash talk each other.
He is literally her idol and she thinks that he is the strongest, most badass person she ever met personally or knows in close proximity.
In front of me and after he brutally beat me up for no reason, she often hero-worships him(like how an overly enthusiastic little boy fans over his favorite male superhero) by saying to me that he has the face of a strong mythical brave legendary heroic young warrior chivalrous knight champion male. She was talking about his facial structures and his face's physical appearance when she said that. She wasn't referring to his personality or skills when she said that.
Honestly, she already hero-worships him these ways before I even met her but doing it after he brutally beat me up? Strange.
Seriously, what the fuck is happening and why is she acting like this to me?
Also, she said this to me:
“Babe, you are my boyfriend but my idol hero and warrior demigod is him.”
And then I was like “What the fuck?”.
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As you know, most MGTOW dudes realize that AWALT means that all women have similar firmware and similar legal advantages they can use to do evil… not that every single woman on Earth is a cheating whore who’s one Appletini away from dumping her husband and doing a gangbang in a toilet stall.
Some guys do not understand that, though. There are guys who never get through the “Red Pill Rage” part of the journey, and get hostile at anyone who suggests that women are - you know - people who make both good and bad decisions just like men do.
Shoot… I’ve been called “blue pilled” by guys whose balls have barely dropped and who’ve never seen a bra strap.
I have written about AWALT a time or two
I have a unique take on it I think
If I’m an remember I will try to dig it out
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I’ll have to take your word for it, but I vaguely recall getting crap about not buying into the idea that AWALT was literally true. Whatever the real or ostensible reason was is irrelevant to me, and I have no interest in dumpster diving through some archive to find out.
I don’t pine over women who rejected me… I’m certainly not going to pine over them.
It’s been a long time, but now that you’re forcing me to think about it, I do remember having a lot of karma in the sub. I try to be judicious with my mod privileges, so even if the proximate cause was something else, I figure an instant perma-ban is a sign that my experience itself had ruffled some feathers.
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@lurkerhasarisen I remember that I found the comment that got you banned after you had expressed confusion; it had nothing to do with your marital status. I think you were supporting Trump or something equally surprising.
I imagine if you cared enough, you could search up the thread in which we discussed it in the WAATGM modmail, then search the /r/ MGTOW link at the Red Archive to see what your comment was.
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I’m not sure how I got tagged into this thread, but since I’m here anyway…
I was a member of the old MGTOW subreddit for quite a while even though I was open about the fact that I’m married and support the idea as a valid (preferred, even) choice for men in the current year.
Eventually one of the mods decided that they didn’t want any married guys around and dropped the ban hammer even though I was never anything other than supportive.
Consequently, I wasn’t particularly bothered when the admins nuked the sub from orbit, even though the reason they gave was complete BS.
I also concur with @Typo-MAGAshiv in his assessment that many guys in the MGTOW community simply refuse to put in the work to better themselves, then claim that their status as MGTOWs is voluntary as a psychological defense mechanism. I don’t throw the overused word, “misogyny” around lightly, but too many of those guys would rather hate the other team’s players than learn how to play the game (even though many would like to).
Having said all that, true MGTOWs can provide a valid perspective to the RP community.
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@Vermillion-Rx I'd say that during my time at WAATGM, going from lurking without a reddit account all the way up to the present, our users were split approximately thusly:
10% MRP
20% TRP
5% wahmyns
30% undecided/newly- unplugging
35% MGTOW
(Not counting trolls/ detractors/ interlopers)
Plus, there was more overlap between MGTOW and TRP than you think.
The few times I got tagged in their sub, I'd say what I had to say and bow out saying that I didn't belong there, but they were always welcoming.
@lurkerhasarisen used to participate there, and might be able to speak more about it.
Also, many WAATGM mods were MGTOW. where_muh_good_mens, @Kevin32 (subreddit founder, and seems a blend of MGTOW & TRP (he is point flaired and has been for years)), @goodmansaysfuckyou (blend of MGTOW and TRP), and DangZagnut (hardline MGTOW).
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